WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00.320 --> 00:02.296 Good evening councilors and welcome to 2 00:02.320 --> 00:04.616 our standing committee meetings. 3 00:04.640 --> 00:06.775 councilors before we begin this evening 4 00:06.799 --> 00:08.615 I'd like to acknowledge the traditional 5 00:08.639 --> 00:10.376 owners of the land on which we meet the 6 00:10.400 --> 00:12.296 Awabakal People and pay respects to 7 00:12.320 --> 00:14.695 elders past present and emerging and 8 00:14.719 --> 00:16.616 also acknowledge any Aboriginal or 9 00:16.640 --> 00:18.856 Torres Strait Islander peoples here with 10 00:18.880 --> 00:21.816 us this evening. before opening the 11 00:21.840 --> 00:23.816 meeting and the first committee, I must 12 00:23.840 --> 00:25.736 remind councilors and members of the 13 00:25.760 --> 00:27.816 gallery that meetings of standing 14 00:27.840 --> 00:30.456 committees and council are recorded and 15 00:30.480 --> 00:33.480 webcast. 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By 20 00:44.399 --> 00:46.456 attending a standing committee or 21 00:46.480 --> 00:48.215 council meeting, you can send your 22 00:48.239 --> 00:50.055 image, speech, or other personal 23 00:50.079 --> 00:53.079 information being webcast and recorded. 24 00:53.199 --> 00:56.199 please ensure that your mobile phones 25 01:05.199 --> 01:07.656 this evening are we meeting at the 26 01:07.680 --> 01:10.680 Windendal Hub and it is also the first 27 01:11.360 --> 01:13.016 time that we have met since the 28 01:13.040 --> 01:15.496 Newcastle Jets were successful in the 29 01:15.520 --> 01:18.520 Australia Cup campaign on behalf of 30 01:19.119 --> 01:22.119 Lake Macquarie congratulations 31 01:22.159 --> 01:24.376 to the Newcastle Jets. And I'm making 32 01:24.400 --> 01:26.696 this point because recently the 33 01:26.720 --> 01:29.656 Newcastle Jets women's side made 34 01:29.680 --> 01:32.296 their home base out at Glendale, our 35 01:32.320 --> 01:34.296 new and improved Hunter Sports Center. 36 01:34.320 --> 01:36.775 So that in and of itself is a huge 37 01:36.799 --> 01:39.415 feather in our cap and congratulations 38 01:39.439 --> 01:41.816 to the entire Newcastle Jets 39 01:41.840 --> 01:43.896 organization. 40 01:43.920 --> 01:46.920 councilors, we will now in terms 41 01:47.040 --> 01:49.576 of look for some apologies. I know that 42 01:49.600 --> 01:52.600 we have councelor Radcliffe who is an 43 01:52.799 --> 01:55.256 apology for our standing committee. 44 01:55.280 --> 01:58.135 can I have a mover and a seconder for 45 01:58.159 --> 02:00.936 that moved councelor Grigg seconded 46 02:00.960 --> 02:03.960 councelor Conroy. All those in favor I. 47 02:04.560 --> 02:06.296 Those against there being no opposition 48 02:06.320 --> 02:09.320 I declare it carried. Thank you. 49 02:09.759 --> 02:12.759 declarations of interest for the 50 02:14.640 --> 02:16.456 organizational services standing 51 02:16.480 --> 02:19.016 committee this evening. Councilors, is 52 02:19.040 --> 02:22.040 there any that people wish to declare? 53 02:24.560 --> 02:27.096 Nothing. No. 54 02:27.120 --> 02:29.496 Excellent. We will move on. 55 02:29.520 --> 02:31.016 presentations, 56 02:31.040 --> 02:34.040 nil, there are no presentations 57 02:34.400 --> 02:37.096 this evening that I'm aware of. So, 58 02:37.120 --> 02:39.176 we'll get right into it. councilors, 59 02:39.200 --> 02:41.736 we have one report before us this 60 02:41.760 --> 02:44.295 evening, the organizational services 61 02:44.319 --> 02:46.456 standing committee. The report being 62 02:46.480 --> 02:49.480 2512, 63 02:50.400 --> 02:53.096 review of public interest disclosure and 64 02:53.120 --> 02:55.096 councilors, I'll look for a mover and a 65 02:55.120 --> 02:58.120 seconder. Move councelor Hannah. 66 02:58.959 --> 03:01.256 Oh no, I thought Yep. Councelor 67 03:01.280 --> 03:04.280 Antcliff. Thank you. A seconder 68 03:05.840 --> 03:08.215 councelor Schulz. Thank you. Councelor 69 03:08.239 --> 03:09.976 Antcliff, did you want to speak on the 70 03:10.000 --> 03:10.696 matter? 71 03:10.720 --> 03:13.720 Happy to reserve the right, Mr. Mayor. 72 03:14.239 --> 03:15.976 Reserve your right. No worries. Is there 73 03:16.000 --> 03:18.376 anyone looking for the call? If so, 74 03:18.400 --> 03:21.096 please feel free to pop your hand up or 75 03:21.120 --> 03:24.056 pop it in the chat. 76 03:24.080 --> 03:26.855 There doesn't appear to be anyone 77 03:26.879 --> 03:29.575 looking for the call. , did you want 78 03:29.599 --> 03:31.495 your right of reply? Are you happy to 79 03:31.519 --> 03:31.816 wave? 80 03:31.840 --> 03:33.096 That's all right. Happy to wave that 81 03:33.120 --> 03:34.376 also. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 82 03:34.400 --> 03:37.400 No worries. I will therefore put 2512 83 03:39.599 --> 03:41.656 review of public interest disclosure 84 03:41.680 --> 03:44.295 policy moved by councelor Antcliff, 85 03:44.319 --> 03:46.295 seconded by councelor Shultz and 86 03:46.319 --> 03:47.896 councilors will do this via show of 87 03:47.920 --> 03:50.135 hands. All those in favor please raise 88 03:50.159 --> 03:52.775 your hand. those in favor, councelor 89 03:52.799 --> 03:55.336 Adams, councelor Antcliff, deputy 90 03:55.360 --> 03:57.896 mayor Grigg, councelor Conroy, councelor 91 03:57.920 --> 03:59.896 Bishop, councelor Warner, councelor 92 03:59.920 --> 04:01.736 Pauling, councelor Swinsburg, councelor 93 04:01.760 --> 04:03.976 Buckley, councelor Shultz, councelor 94 04:04.000 --> 04:06.376 Hannah, Mayor Adam Shultz. Those 95 04:06.400 --> 04:08.215 against, there being no opposition, I 96 04:08.239 --> 04:11.239 declare it carried unanimously. 97 04:11.680 --> 04:14.215 thank you councilors. I'll now close 98 04:14.239 --> 04:17.016 the organizational services standing 99 04:17.040 --> 04:19.016 committee and we will open up the 100 04:19.040 --> 04:21.495 service delivery steamed in committee 101 04:21.519 --> 04:23.735 again we go through the process 102 04:23.759 --> 04:26.759 apologies we have one apology from 103 04:26.800 --> 04:28.696 councelor Radcliffe I'll look for a 104 04:28.720 --> 04:30.615 mover and a seconder to accept that 105 04:30.639 --> 04:33.496 apology moved councelor Shultz seconded 106 04:33.520 --> 04:35.656 councelor Hannah all those in favor 107 04:35.680 --> 04:38.680 please say I those against I declare it 108 04:38.880 --> 04:40.856 carried 109 04:40.880 --> 04:43.880 counselors declarations of interest. 110 04:44.240 --> 04:46.056 Is there anyone looking for the call on 111 04:46.080 --> 04:48.296 this one? There are a few pre-populated 112 04:48.320 --> 04:51.016 ones councelor Conroy. 113 04:51.040 --> 04:53.096 114 04:53.120 --> 04:54.776 thank you, Mr. Mayor I would like 115 04:54.800 --> 04:57.336 to declare a non-pecuniary less than 116 04:57.360 --> 05:00.360 significant interest in item 25D 117 05:01.759 --> 05:04.056 SD012, review of the funding from 118 05:04.080 --> 05:05.895 council and sponsorship from council 119 05:05.919 --> 05:08.919 policies. I am currently serving on the 120 05:10.240 --> 05:13.240 Hunter Sports Center. board as a 121 05:13.280 --> 05:16.280 council appointed board member which 122 05:17.039 --> 05:19.256 is an organization that may be affected 123 05:19.280 --> 05:21.496 by proposed changes within the policies 124 05:21.520 --> 05:23.976 and have some questions on that matter. 125 05:24.000 --> 05:25.496 My other connection to Hunter Sports 126 05:25.520 --> 05:27.336 Center is that my children both have 127 05:27.360 --> 05:29.416 participated in the gymnastics program 128 05:29.440 --> 05:31.096 there and obviously done their school 129 05:31.120 --> 05:33.496 sports carnivals as ordinary community 130 05:33.520 --> 05:35.735 members. 131 05:35.759 --> 05:38.759 which is fine in my opinion and I 132 05:38.880 --> 05:41.880 will believe it's a non-pecuniary less 133 05:42.080 --> 05:44.056 than significant interest remain in the 134 05:44.080 --> 05:46.615 council meeting room to participate in 135 05:46.639 --> 05:49.496 discussion and voting of the item. Um 136 05:49.520 --> 05:51.576 might also yeah I'll leave it at 137 05:51.600 --> 05:52.936 that. Thank you. 138 05:52.960 --> 05:54.776 Thank you 139 05:54.800 --> 05:57.096 councelor Antcliff. 140 05:57.120 --> 05:59.816 Thank you Mr. Mayor. The one from me 141 05:59.840 --> 06:01.895 non pecuniary significant interest in 142 06:01.919 --> 06:04.696 25 SD012 review of the funding from 143 06:04.720 --> 06:06.376 council and sponsorship from council 144 06:06.400 --> 06:08.936 policy in a professional capacity. I'm 145 06:08.960 --> 06:10.615 involved in the delivery of events that 146 06:10.639 --> 06:12.216 have previously received funding from 147 06:12.240 --> 06:13.976 council and sponsorship from council 148 06:14.000 --> 06:16.455 including let's surf Lake Mac which will 149 06:16.479 --> 06:18.136 take place as part of Lake Mac 150 06:18.160 --> 06:21.096 actionfest this coming weekend. Um, in 151 06:21.120 --> 06:23.336 my opinion, that is non pecuniary 152 06:23.360 --> 06:25.096 significant unable to remove it. 153 06:25.120 --> 06:26.615 I'll be leaving the chamber for that 154 06:26.639 --> 06:27.816 one. 155 06:27.840 --> 06:30.840 Thank you councelor Pauling. 156 06:32.880 --> 06:34.536 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I wasn't going to 157 06:34.560 --> 06:36.536 make a declaration, but I will follow 158 06:36.560 --> 06:39.496 Q after councelor Conroy in relation to 159 06:39.520 --> 06:41.976 25 SD012. 160 06:42.000 --> 06:45.000 I also sit largely echoed just 161 06:46.160 --> 06:47.336 from a transcription point of view 162 06:47.360 --> 06:49.015 largely echo the wording there um 163 06:49.039 --> 06:51.015 council appointed committee member for 164 06:51.039 --> 06:53.816 the Hunter Sport Center non-pecuniary 165 06:53.840 --> 06:56.056 less than significant but given that 166 06:56.080 --> 06:58.136 it has been noted by others I will echo 167 06:58.160 --> 07:00.936 that notation is my intention to stay in 168 07:00.960 --> 07:02.696 the chamber for that matter thank you 169 07:02.720 --> 07:05.720 thank you council Pauling I too will 170 07:05.840 --> 07:08.840 make a similar declaration so it will 171 07:10.400 --> 07:13.400 be in relation to 25 SD012. 172 07:14.400 --> 07:17.400 I too am a board member of the Hunter 173 07:17.520 --> 07:20.520 Sports Center my declaration is 174 07:21.520 --> 07:24.520 non pecuniary less than significant. I 175 07:25.440 --> 07:27.735 will remain in the chamber for 176 07:27.759 --> 07:30.536 discussion and voting as well and I've 177 07:30.560 --> 07:32.856 made that based on the other disclosures 178 07:32.880 --> 07:34.455 that are being made and I'll go to 179 07:34.479 --> 07:36.455 councelor Hannah. will probably make a 180 07:36.479 --> 07:37.015 similar Mr. 181 07:37.039 --> 07:39.816 Mayor I will make the same declaration 182 07:39.840 --> 07:42.455 a non pecuniary less significant interest 183 07:42.479 --> 07:45.015 as I have to sit on that board. Thank 184 07:45.039 --> 07:46.856 you. Same wording will be fine. 185 07:46.880 --> 07:49.880 Yep. 186 07:51.280 --> 07:53.416 Excellent. councilors, are there any 187 07:53.440 --> 07:56.440 other declarations of interest um before 188 07:56.479 --> 07:58.936 us that people want to put on the 189 07:58.960 --> 08:01.960 record? 190 08:02.000 --> 08:03.656 You comfortable you've got everything 191 08:03.680 --> 08:06.615 there? Yep. Great. councilors, there 192 08:06.639 --> 08:08.295 doesn't appear to be any further 193 08:08.319 --> 08:11.319 declarations. presentations. there 194 08:12.240 --> 08:14.376 are no presentations this evening, so 195 08:14.400 --> 08:16.855 we'll get right into it. we have 196 08:16.879 --> 08:18.615 three reports this evening for the 197 08:18.639 --> 08:21.096 service delivery standing committee. The 198 08:21.120 --> 08:24.120 first being 25 SD0100 199 08:26.160 --> 08:29.160 review international engagement policy. 200 08:29.919 --> 08:32.919 And I'll look for a mover and a second 201 08:33.440 --> 08:36.440 move. Councelor Adams. Thank you. And 202 08:36.800 --> 08:38.296 seconded. 203 08:38.320 --> 08:40.455 , Mr. Mayor, I'd like to move a 204 08:40.479 --> 08:41.815 replacement regular. 205 08:41.839 --> 08:44.839 Remove a replacement and alternate. 206 08:45.440 --> 08:48.440 Um, I believe it is there. 207 08:50.080 --> 08:53.080 Oh, sorry. No, I I will move the motion 208 08:53.360 --> 08:55.736 then. You're moving the motion. I'm I'm 209 08:55.760 --> 08:57.255 one queue ahead. 210 08:57.279 --> 08:59.896 Okay. No worries. You don't want to jump 211 08:59.920 --> 09:01.736 the gun. 212 09:01.760 --> 09:04.056 Okay. , councelor Adam, so you're 213 09:04.080 --> 09:07.080 comfortable to move 25 SD010, review of 214 09:07.440 --> 09:09.495 international engagement policy. Yes. 215 09:09.519 --> 09:10.856 And councilors, I'll look for a 216 09:10.880 --> 09:13.656 seconder. , deputy mayor Grigg. Thank 217 09:13.680 --> 09:16.456 you. , councelor Adams plate, did you 218 09:16.480 --> 09:17.976 want to speak? , no. Thank you, Mr. 219 09:18.000 --> 09:18.696 Mayor. 220 09:18.720 --> 09:20.935 No worries. Councilors, is there anyone 221 09:20.959 --> 09:23.959 looking for the call on 25 SD0100 222 09:25.279 --> 09:28.279 review international engagement policy? 223 09:30.880 --> 09:33.255 there doesn't appear to be. So 224 09:33.279 --> 09:35.576 council Adams, did you want a right of 225 09:35.600 --> 09:38.456 reply? Happy to wave. On that note, I 226 09:38.480 --> 09:41.416 will put 25 SD010 227 09:41.440 --> 09:44.216 review international engagement policy 228 09:44.240 --> 09:47.240 moved by councelor Adams, seconded by 229 09:47.680 --> 09:49.896 Deputy May Grig. All those in favor, 230 09:49.920 --> 09:52.856 please raise your hand. Those in favor, 231 09:52.880 --> 09:55.880 councelor Adams, Councelor Antcliff, 232 09:55.920 --> 09:58.375 Deputy Mayor Greed, Councelor Conroy, 233 09:58.399 --> 10:00.696 Councelor Bishop, Councelor Warner, 234 10:00.720 --> 10:03.176 Councelor Pauling, Councelor Swinsburg, 235 10:03.200 --> 10:06.200 Councelor Buckley, Councelor Schulz, , 236 10:06.240 --> 10:08.456 Councelor Hannah, Mayor Adam Schulz. 237 10:08.480 --> 10:09.656 Those against, there being no 238 10:09.680 --> 10:11.416 opposition, I declare it carried 239 10:11.440 --> 10:14.440 unanimously. Thank you, councilors. 240 10:17.040 --> 10:20.040 councilors the second report in this 241 10:21.600 --> 10:24.600 committee is 25 SD01 242 10:26.959 --> 10:29.959 youth excellent sponsorship. Yes. 243 10:30.320 --> 10:33.096 councilors I'll look for a mover and a 244 10:33.120 --> 10:36.120 seconder. Oh, yep. Councelor Adam is 245 10:37.040 --> 10:40.040 moving that way. Thank you. look for 246 10:40.959 --> 10:43.255 a seconder. 247 10:43.279 --> 10:46.279 Oh, sorry. You you you want to you're 248 10:46.640 --> 10:48.296 moving alternate? 249 10:48.320 --> 10:51.320 Yeah. 250 10:53.360 --> 10:56.360 A and B remain the same as the original 251 10:57.040 --> 10:59.416 printed versions. 252 10:59.440 --> 11:02.440 Um and there is changing to um 253 11:06.880 --> 11:09.880 C supports the allocation of funding 254 11:10.320 --> 11:12.696 for the program for the next 3 years. 255 11:12.720 --> 11:15.495 undertakes a review of the program after 256 11:15.519 --> 11:18.519 2 years with a report to council to 257 11:18.640 --> 11:21.255 evaluate its effectiveness based on the 258 11:21.279 --> 11:24.279 criteria inclusion and diversity level 259 11:24.800 --> 11:26.856 of achievement and future career 260 11:26.880 --> 11:29.576 pathways city ambassadorship and 261 11:29.600 --> 11:32.600 anticipated future need and e update the 262 11:34.240 --> 11:35.896 administration's 263 11:35.920 --> 11:38.616 selection of the policy 264 11:38.640 --> 11:41.640 item one to read applications will be 265 11:42.399 --> 11:44.616 accepted through a nominated 266 11:44.640 --> 11:47.640 userfriendly grant portal to ensure ease 267 11:48.320 --> 11:50.776 of application and transparency of 268 11:50.800 --> 11:53.255 assessment. No worries. Thank you, 269 11:53.279 --> 11:55.176 councelor Adamweight. we'll look for 270 11:55.200 --> 11:57.176 a seconder and then you can speak to 271 11:57.200 --> 12:00.200 that alternate motion. councelor 272 12:00.399 --> 12:02.136 Encliffe. 273 12:02.160 --> 12:04.055 Thank you. councelor Adamweight, did 274 12:04.079 --> 12:05.656 you want to speak on your alternate 275 12:05.680 --> 12:06.136 motion? 276 12:06.160 --> 12:08.456 yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. firstly 277 12:08.480 --> 12:09.976 perhaps a little bit of background for 278 12:10.000 --> 12:12.615 those people who are newer to council. 279 12:12.639 --> 12:15.016 Um originally we were involved in the 280 12:15.040 --> 12:16.696 international children's games. We 281 12:16.720 --> 12:19.720 hosted those games and over the years we 282 12:19.839 --> 12:22.839 have sent teams overseas to games. Um I 283 12:23.200 --> 12:26.200 know that as deputy mayor I attended one 284 12:26.399 --> 12:29.399 in um in Taiwan. it was a great 285 12:30.800 --> 12:32.375 experience. I know that councelor 286 12:32.399 --> 12:35.096 Antcliff has also attended games and 287 12:35.120 --> 12:38.120 these were a wonderful way of assisting 288 12:39.279 --> 12:42.279 children to compete on the world stage. 289 12:43.360 --> 12:46.360 Times have changed and as a result we 290 12:47.680 --> 12:50.136 have the option of looking at something 291 12:50.160 --> 12:52.696 that is perhaps more immediate that is 292 12:52.720 --> 12:55.720 perhaps more focused on our community 293 12:55.920 --> 12:58.920 and a broader aspect of the community. I 294 12:59.680 --> 13:02.680 think that this particular motion is 295 13:03.120 --> 13:06.120 looking forward to making sure that all 296 13:07.360 --> 13:10.360 children in Lake McQuary who have an 297 13:10.639 --> 13:13.639 interest, an expertise, perhaps even a 298 13:14.160 --> 13:17.160 gift in various sporting activities can 299 13:17.200 --> 13:20.200 be given extra opportunities and council 300 13:20.560 --> 13:22.375 could support them through this 301 13:22.399 --> 13:24.935 particular process. The changes that 302 13:24.959 --> 13:26.055 I've made from the original 303 13:26.079 --> 13:28.536 recommendation um are basically only 304 13:28.560 --> 13:31.560 two. One is even though the funding 305 13:32.240 --> 13:34.935 remains for 3 years, the review occurs 306 13:34.959 --> 13:37.959 in 2 years. The reason for that is so 307 13:38.000 --> 13:41.000 that this can be assessed before the 308 13:41.440 --> 13:43.976 council election before there were newer 309 13:44.000 --> 13:46.935 people perhaps in our space. I find 310 13:46.959 --> 13:49.959 often as councils change over that 311 13:50.880 --> 13:52.935 people sometimes wished things had been 312 13:52.959 --> 13:55.896 done the year before when there was a 313 13:55.920 --> 13:57.976 lot more expertise in the room, a lot 314 13:58.000 --> 14:00.216 more input and discussion and people 315 14:00.240 --> 14:02.375 sometimes prefer to have a little bit of 316 14:02.399 --> 14:04.456 free space when they first start. So 317 14:04.480 --> 14:06.615 that's the reason for two rather than 3 318 14:06.639 --> 14:09.639 years in terms of the staging for the 319 14:10.160 --> 14:13.160 review of this policy. Um the second 320 14:13.600 --> 14:16.600 part is that we do use um in particular 321 14:18.160 --> 14:21.160 one online application service which is 322 14:21.600 --> 14:23.976 really quite difficult and complicated. 323 14:24.000 --> 14:27.000 Um in a recent funding round there 324 14:27.839 --> 14:30.839 was a review of the particular process 325 14:31.839 --> 14:34.839 by asking people who applied the ease 326 14:34.959 --> 14:37.495 at which they found it and 90% found it 327 14:37.519 --> 14:40.456 was not really easy at all. Most of 328 14:40.480 --> 14:43.480 those funding rounds relate to community 329 14:43.519 --> 14:45.175 organizations. 330 14:45.199 --> 14:47.576 We're talking about an application 331 14:47.600 --> 14:50.600 process involving families, involving 332 14:51.360 --> 14:54.136 our average citizens in the community. 333 14:54.160 --> 14:56.296 So I think that if we can find something 334 14:56.320 --> 14:59.320 that is going to be user friendly but 335 14:59.600 --> 15:02.600 still maintaining the transparency of 336 15:03.360 --> 15:06.136 the assessment and the fairness of that 337 15:06.160 --> 15:08.456 particular process hence these 338 15:08.480 --> 15:10.296 particular changes. So I'd encourage 339 15:10.320 --> 15:13.255 councilors to support these two perhaps 340 15:13.279 --> 15:15.016 minor changes but I think particularly 341 15:15.040 --> 15:18.040 significant to make it easier for 342 15:18.320 --> 15:20.456 families within Lake McCory to be able 343 15:20.480 --> 15:23.016 to access this funding which is now 344 15:23.040 --> 15:26.040 moving towards something that is a much 345 15:26.399 --> 15:29.399 broader approach to providing support 346 15:30.959 --> 15:33.576 providing material resources for 347 15:33.600 --> 15:35.495 children within our community. Thank you 348 15:35.519 --> 15:36.375 Mr. Mayor. 349 15:36.399 --> 15:38.216 Thank you councelor Adamweight. 350 15:38.240 --> 15:40.296 councilors, is there anyone else looking 351 15:40.320 --> 15:42.456 for the call? 352 15:42.480 --> 15:44.456 If so, pop up your hand. councelor 353 15:44.480 --> 15:47.416 Warner, 354 15:47.440 --> 15:50.136 thank you. Just a question to staff um 355 15:50.160 --> 15:52.136 given the changes if they are 356 15:52.160 --> 15:54.696 implemented tonight. Just wondering um 357 15:54.720 --> 15:56.935 what will be planned as to how we can 358 15:56.959 --> 15:58.615 advertise to the community and 359 15:58.639 --> 16:01.639 particularly target young people that 360 16:01.759 --> 16:04.759 we will be um offering this to. 361 16:06.240 --> 16:09.240 defer to the CEO, 362 16:09.680 --> 16:12.375 Miss Plumber, 363 16:12.399 --> 16:15.399 through M Mr. Mayor, um undertake 364 16:17.440 --> 16:19.495 a considered communication plan that 365 16:19.519 --> 16:22.375 would um put into action any of the 366 16:22.399 --> 16:24.055 channels that we typically use, 367 16:24.079 --> 16:27.079 social media, media releases, um 368 16:27.120 --> 16:30.120 physical and digital collateral, um 369 16:30.320 --> 16:33.016 reaching out to schools and the like. um 370 16:33.040 --> 16:34.536 using our facilities at some of our 371 16:34.560 --> 16:36.136 events even as touch points for 372 16:36.160 --> 16:37.495 information with regards to the 373 16:37.519 --> 16:38.856 initiative. 374 16:38.880 --> 16:41.880 Yep. Thank you. Um I think um I support 375 16:43.040 --> 16:46.040 this. Um I think it's a fantastic 376 16:46.320 --> 16:48.136 opportunity and I think we recognized 377 16:48.160 --> 16:49.815 when we workshopped that there was a gap 378 16:49.839 --> 16:52.296 between our community awards program 379 16:52.320 --> 16:55.320 that we have um and also um the 380 16:55.440 --> 16:58.440 opportunities for um grants and funding 381 16:58.639 --> 17:01.175 for young people in our community. And I 382 17:01.199 --> 17:03.576 think this just opens up um 383 17:03.600 --> 17:06.216 opportunities to support those that are 384 17:06.240 --> 17:08.376 not just succeeding in the sporting 385 17:08.400 --> 17:11.175 arena, but also in other competitive 386 17:11.199 --> 17:13.815 fields such as dance and and other 387 17:13.839 --> 17:15.736 things. And I think um yeah, this will 388 17:15.760 --> 17:17.096 just give some great opportunities to 389 17:17.120 --> 17:18.216 those young people. I'm always 390 17:18.240 --> 17:19.815 interested as to how we can make it 391 17:19.839 --> 17:21.496 accessible and inclusive and I think 392 17:21.520 --> 17:23.015 that comes down to our communications 393 17:23.039 --> 17:25.096 plan and how we actually get that out 394 17:25.120 --> 17:26.856 into the community cuz we want people to 395 17:26.880 --> 17:29.336 actually apply for it. And um yeah, 396 17:29.360 --> 17:32.296 really I'm excited to see what we will 397 17:32.320 --> 17:34.376 um see in the future back from some of 398 17:34.400 --> 17:35.895 these grants and what we'll inspire 399 17:35.919 --> 17:37.655 because we have got a lot of amazing 400 17:37.679 --> 17:39.895 young people doing great things here. So 401 17:39.919 --> 17:42.136 thank you for bringing it to us. 402 17:42.160 --> 17:44.775 Thank you council Warner. Councilors, is 403 17:44.799 --> 17:47.336 there anyone else looking for the call? 404 17:47.360 --> 17:50.216 Doesn't appear to be. I'll contribute. 405 17:50.240 --> 17:53.240 so council is is launching the yes 406 17:54.000 --> 17:56.216 program to support young people in late 407 17:56.240 --> 17:59.240 McQuary competing in elite events as 408 17:59.440 --> 18:02.056 has been said across sport across arts 409 18:02.080 --> 18:04.456 science technology and academic 410 18:04.480 --> 18:07.480 competitions. This is in response to the 411 18:07.520 --> 18:09.655 discontinuation of the international 412 18:09.679 --> 18:12.216 children's games advisory committee 413 18:12.240 --> 18:15.240 which had been operating since a team 414 18:15.440 --> 18:16.936 lake 415 18:16.960 --> 18:19.176 contingent first participated in the 416 18:19.200 --> 18:22.200 international children's games in 2008 417 18:23.440 --> 18:26.440 at the s in in the USA in San 418 18:26.799 --> 18:28.936 Francisco. the international 419 18:28.960 --> 18:31.256 children's games was an annual event 420 18:31.280 --> 18:33.096 where late McQuary would send a 421 18:33.120 --> 18:36.120 delegation overseas in collaboration 422 18:36.160 --> 18:39.160 with the Hunter Academy of Sport. Late 423 18:39.200 --> 18:41.576 McQuary also hosted the International 424 18:41.600 --> 18:44.600 Children's Games in 2014. 425 18:45.280 --> 18:48.056 the Hunter Academy of Sport has been 426 18:48.080 --> 18:50.056 actively consulted throughout the 427 18:50.080 --> 18:52.775 process and has formally advised council 428 18:52.799 --> 18:55.176 of its decision not to continue 429 18:55.200 --> 18:57.096 participation in the International 430 18:57.120 --> 18:59.895 Children's Game Program. In response to 431 18:59.919 --> 19:02.919 this, there is now $32,000 432 19:03.760 --> 19:06.296 to annually distribute as part of the 433 19:06.320 --> 19:09.320 new youth excellence sponsorship program 434 19:09.840 --> 19:12.840 or YES program, which will benefit 435 19:13.200 --> 19:16.200 individuals and teams under 18 residing 436 19:16.640 --> 19:19.640 in Lake McQuary, participating in 437 19:19.919 --> 19:21.976 competitions 438 19:22.000 --> 19:24.136 supporting and effectively supporting 439 19:24.160 --> 19:27.160 the youth of Lake McQuary. The program 440 19:27.200 --> 19:30.200 offers up to $300 for individuals and 441 19:31.039 --> 19:34.039 $1,000 for teams to help cover the costs 442 19:34.720 --> 19:37.496 like entry fees, equipment, and travel. 443 19:37.520 --> 19:40.216 The new YES program has the capacity 444 19:40.240 --> 19:43.240 therefore to assist approximately 100 445 19:43.360 --> 19:45.816 Lake McQuary youth in pursuit of their 446 19:45.840 --> 19:47.736 dreams on an annual basis, which is 447 19:47.760 --> 19:50.760 really, really fantastic. As mayor, I am 448 19:51.039 --> 19:52.535 looking forward to presenting the 449 19:52.559 --> 19:54.296 children and teenagers with their 450 19:54.320 --> 19:56.296 certificates and hearing about the 451 19:56.320 --> 19:59.320 competitions here and celebrating those 452 19:59.360 --> 20:01.816 presentations and initiatives as it's 453 20:01.840 --> 20:03.736 rolled out and over the course of the 454 20:03.760 --> 20:06.760 next 3 years. Um, which is is really 455 20:07.039 --> 20:09.256 really important. Um, as councelor 456 20:09.280 --> 20:11.655 Warner said, it's important that this is 457 20:11.679 --> 20:13.736 appropriately communicated as well so 458 20:13.760 --> 20:15.336 that community are well aware and can 459 20:15.360 --> 20:17.816 access those funds. So, I'd encourage 460 20:17.840 --> 20:20.296 everyone to support it. , councelor 461 20:20.320 --> 20:22.616 Adamweight, did you want your right of 462 20:22.640 --> 20:23.655 reply? 463 20:23.679 --> 20:25.895 , only to mention, Mr. Mayor, that 464 20:25.919 --> 20:27.895 this is a really great stride forward 465 20:27.919 --> 20:30.919 into the future, and I look forward to 466 20:31.600 --> 20:33.816 the council being able to produce the 467 20:33.840 --> 20:35.416 opportunities that we've discussed 468 20:35.440 --> 20:38.440 tonight. Thank you. Thank you, 469 20:38.880 --> 20:41.655 councilors. That closes debate and I 470 20:41.679 --> 20:44.679 will therefore put 25 SD01 471 20:47.440 --> 20:50.216 youth excellence sponsorship or yes 472 20:50.240 --> 20:53.240 program u moved by council the alternate 473 20:54.640 --> 20:57.256 motion moved by councel Adamweight and 474 20:57.280 --> 21:00.280 seconded by councelor Antcliff I'm going 475 21:00.640 --> 21:01.976 to read it out because it is an 476 21:02.000 --> 21:05.000 alternate motion um so council A 477 21:06.240 --> 21:08.856 approves the reallocation of funds for 478 21:08.880 --> 21:10.456 particip participation in the 479 21:10.480 --> 21:13.015 international children's games to annual 480 21:13.039 --> 21:15.655 to an annual allocation of funding to 481 21:15.679 --> 21:18.456 sponsor emerging late McQuary youth to 482 21:18.480 --> 21:20.296 compete in significant major 483 21:20.320 --> 21:23.256 competitions. B discontinues the 484 21:23.280 --> 21:25.655 International Children's Games Advisory 485 21:25.679 --> 21:28.216 Committee and rescends the International 486 21:28.240 --> 21:30.535 Children's Games Advisory Committee 487 21:30.559 --> 21:33.416 Charter Reference Committee version two 488 21:33.440 --> 21:36.440 attachment one. Corts the allocation of 489 21:37.600 --> 21:40.296 funding for the program for the next 3 490 21:40.320 --> 21:43.320 years. D undertakes a review of the 491 21:43.919 --> 21:46.775 program after 2 years with a report to 492 21:46.799 --> 21:49.655 council to evaluate its effectiveness 493 21:49.679 --> 21:52.056 based on the criteria 494 21:52.080 --> 21:54.856 inclusion and diversity level of 495 21:54.880 --> 21:57.736 achievement and future career pathways, 496 21:57.760 --> 22:00.696 city ambassadorship and anticipated 497 22:00.720 --> 22:03.416 future need and e updates the 498 22:03.440 --> 22:05.736 administration section of the policy. 499 22:05.760 --> 22:08.760 Item one to read, applications will be 500 22:08.880 --> 22:10.456 accepted through a nominated 501 22:10.480 --> 22:13.480 userfriendly grants portal to ensure 502 22:13.520 --> 22:16.456 ease of application and transparency of 503 22:16.480 --> 22:19.015 assessment. That was moved by councelor 504 22:19.039 --> 22:21.496 Adamweight, seconded by councelor 505 22:21.520 --> 22:23.336 Antcliff. We'll do it by a show of 506 22:23.360 --> 22:25.576 hands. All those in favor, please raise 507 22:25.600 --> 22:27.416 your hand. 508 22:27.440 --> 22:30.216 Those in favor, councelor Adamsweight, 509 22:30.240 --> 22:32.535 Councelor Antcliff, Deputy Mayor Grigg, 510 22:32.559 --> 22:34.856 Councelor Conroy, Councelor Bishop, 511 22:34.880 --> 22:37.336 Councelor Warner, Council Pauling, 512 22:37.360 --> 22:39.976 Councelor Swinsburg, Councelor Buckley, 513 22:40.000 --> 22:42.696 Councelor Schulz, Councelor Hannah, 514 22:42.720 --> 22:44.856 Mayor Adam Schulz. Those against, there 515 22:44.880 --> 22:46.616 being no opposition, I declare it 516 22:46.640 --> 22:48.376 carried unanimously. Thank you, 517 22:48.400 --> 22:50.936 councilors. 518 22:50.960 --> 22:53.960 councilors, our our next item on the 519 22:55.039 --> 22:57.976 agenda is 520 22:58.000 --> 23:00.056 25 521 23:00.080 --> 23:02.135 is SD 522 23:02.159 --> 23:05.159 TW 25 SD012 523 23:06.240 --> 23:09.240 review of the funding from council and 524 23:09.840 --> 23:12.616 sponsorship from council policies. 525 23:12.640 --> 23:15.496 Councilors, I'll look for a mover and a 526 23:15.520 --> 23:17.496 seconder. 527 23:17.520 --> 23:20.520 Move. Councelor Adams, 528 23:22.640 --> 23:24.135 just pop your 529 23:24.159 --> 23:25.256 Do we need to adjourn? 530 23:25.280 --> 23:28.216 Pop your um 531 23:28.240 --> 23:29.895 moving an alternate again 532 23:29.919 --> 23:32.056 to move an alternate 533 23:32.080 --> 23:35.080 which I believe is there. 534 23:41.280 --> 23:42.216 So you're moving. 535 23:42.240 --> 23:45.240 All right. so the the first two 536 23:47.200 --> 23:49.416 relate to the sponsorship policy. So it 537 23:49.440 --> 23:52.440 rescends the existing sponsorship 538 23:52.799 --> 23:55.799 from council policy version two which is 539 23:56.799 --> 23:59.736 attachment four in our documents. B, 540 23:59.760 --> 24:02.056 adopt the revised sponsorship from 541 24:02.080 --> 24:04.936 council policy version three, attachment 542 24:04.960 --> 24:07.960 three, um, which would be replacing the 543 24:08.559 --> 24:11.559 previous policy that we have for that. 544 24:12.000 --> 24:15.000 C defers the review of the funding from 545 24:16.400 --> 24:18.775 council policy. funding from council, 546 24:18.799 --> 24:20.856 sponsorship from council, two different 547 24:20.880 --> 24:22.376 policies 548 24:22.400 --> 24:24.616 for further investigation regarding 549 24:24.640 --> 24:27.640 the impact of proposed changes to the 550 24:28.000 --> 24:31.000 events and festivals funding program, 551 24:31.120 --> 24:33.895 including but not limited to 552 24:33.919 --> 24:36.919 consideration of the eligibility for 553 24:37.279 --> 24:39.416 organizations supported through the 554 24:39.440 --> 24:42.440 lease equity program, organizations 555 24:42.480 --> 24:45.015 seeking more than 3 years of recurrent 556 24:45.039 --> 24:47.416 funding and options specific 557 24:47.440 --> 24:50.440 specifically for Anzac Day. Thank you, 558 24:50.720 --> 24:53.176 Council Adam. councilors, I'll look 559 24:53.200 --> 24:55.576 for a seconder to the alternate motion. 560 24:55.600 --> 24:57.895 And I note that councelor Antcliff has 561 24:57.919 --> 25:00.919 left the chamber. 562 25:00.960 --> 25:03.176 It Oh, councelor Hannah, you're happy to 563 25:03.200 --> 25:06.200 second that. Thank you. 564 25:07.279 --> 25:10.279 Yeah, the the CEO's just advised um so 565 25:12.000 --> 25:14.856 yep, we've got a a live motion or 566 25:14.880 --> 25:16.936 alternate motion now, but given the 567 25:16.960 --> 25:19.496 time, it's probably appropriate that we 568 25:19.520 --> 25:21.816 pause here and take an adjournment for 569 25:21.840 --> 25:23.816 this standing committee. noting that 570 25:23.840 --> 25:25.416 we have an extraordinary meeting coming 571 25:25.440 --> 25:27.895 up. So councilors, we will now take a 572 25:27.919 --> 25:30.616 recess to allow counselors to reset for 573 25:30.640 --> 25:32.535 the extraordinary meeting scheduled to 574 25:32.559 --> 25:35.176 commence at 7 p.m. 575 25:35.200 --> 25:37.336 At the completion of the extraordinary 576 25:37.360 --> 25:39.255 meeting, we'll return to the standing 577 25:39.279 --> 25:41.496 committee to discuss this alternate 578 25:41.520 --> 25:44.376 motion. Can I please seek a mover and a 579 25:44.400 --> 25:46.535 seconder to adjourn the standing 580 25:46.559 --> 25:49.336 committee? Moved to Council Warner. 581 25:49.360 --> 25:52.360 seconded, Councelor Bishop. Thank you. 582 25:53.200 --> 25:54.856 All actually I'll do it by a show of 583 25:54.880 --> 25:57.176 hands. all those in favor of the 584 25:57.200 --> 25:59.736 adjournment please raise your hand. 585 25:59.760 --> 26:01.655 Those in favor councelor Adams way 586 26:01.679 --> 26:03.736 deputy mayor Grigg councelor Conroy 587 26:03.760 --> 26:05.576 councelor Bishop councelor Warner 588 26:05.600 --> 26:07.176 councelor Pauling councelor Swinsburg 589 26:07.200 --> 26:09.015 councelor Buckley councelor Shultz 590 26:09.039 --> 26:11.096 councelor Hannah Mayor Adam Shultz 591 26:11.120 --> 26:12.616 those against there being no opposition 592 26:12.640 --> 26:15.640 I declare it carried unanimously. for 593 26:16.720 --> 26:17.736 Yeah, we just 594 26:17.760 --> 26:20.760 Yeah, for those online, please stay 595 26:20.960 --> 26:23.960 put. the existing link will continue 596 26:24.400 --> 26:26.616 for the extraordinary committee 597 26:26.640 --> 26:28.296 extraordinary council meeting which will 598 26:28.320 --> 26:30.856 commence soon. Um but yeah, we will take 599 26:30.880 --> 26:33.576 a short recess before we commence 600 26:33.600 --> 26:36.376 that. Thank you. 601 26:36.400 --> 26:39.400 councilors, we will now return to our 602 26:40.080 --> 26:42.135 standing committee meetings and I'll 603 26:42.159 --> 26:44.775 reopen service delivery standing 604 26:44.799 --> 26:47.799 committee which is 25 SD012. 605 26:49.039 --> 26:51.096 I note that councelor Antcliff is 606 26:51.120 --> 26:54.120 leaving the chamber 607 26:55.279 --> 26:58.056 councilors. we were in the process of 608 26:58.080 --> 27:01.080 an alternate motion which had been moved 609 27:01.200 --> 27:04.200 by councelor Adamweight and seconded by 610 27:05.600 --> 27:08.600 councelor Hannah before we adjourned. 611 27:09.840 --> 27:12.840 now that's been moved and seconded. 612 27:12.960 --> 27:15.960 I might move I'll go to I should say 613 27:16.320 --> 27:19.176 councelor Adamu to speak on his 614 27:19.200 --> 27:20.856 alternate motion. 615 27:20.880 --> 27:23.015 yes thank you Mr. Mayor. first of 616 27:23.039 --> 27:25.816 all I'd like to ask a question of staff. 617 27:25.840 --> 27:28.376 Um some people have discussed with me 618 27:28.400 --> 27:31.400 whether or not the less lease equity 619 27:32.480 --> 27:35.480 situation um has any relationship with 620 27:35.679 --> 27:38.679 sponsorship and preventing organizations 621 27:39.360 --> 27:41.576 from applying for things. If I could 622 27:41.600 --> 27:42.775 have an answer on that. 623 27:42.799 --> 27:45.416 I'll go to Mr. 624 27:45.440 --> 27:48.440 Plumber Mr. Payne 625 27:49.039 --> 27:52.039 through Mr. Mayor. the events 626 27:53.679 --> 27:56.056 funding has three tiers. the third of 627 27:56.080 --> 27:58.375 which is the sponsorship funding. the 628 27:58.399 --> 28:00.775 sponsorship funding doesn't it 629 28:00.799 --> 28:02.535 doesn't impact those that have a lease 630 28:02.559 --> 28:04.936 equity arrangement. 631 28:04.960 --> 28:06.936 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um that sort of 632 28:06.960 --> 28:09.336 clears up a a bit of an issue in terms 633 28:09.360 --> 28:12.360 of that. So the reason for the structure 634 28:12.480 --> 28:14.375 of this particular resolution is that 635 28:14.399 --> 28:16.216 the sponsorship 636 28:16.240 --> 28:19.240 um is going to be rescinded and replaced 637 28:19.440 --> 28:22.216 with the document that we've now seen as 638 28:22.240 --> 28:24.936 in the original recommendation. The the 639 28:24.960 --> 28:27.960 next part is looking at the funding of 640 28:28.159 --> 28:31.159 council funding from council and as 641 28:31.679 --> 28:33.096 has been pointed out there are a number 642 28:33.120 --> 28:35.416 of different fundings that council 643 28:35.440 --> 28:37.416 provides to people and there are a 644 28:37.440 --> 28:38.856 number of different committees and those 645 28:38.880 --> 28:40.375 of you who served on committees will 646 28:40.399 --> 28:42.616 know that it is in fact quite an 647 28:42.640 --> 28:45.640 ownorous task a lot of work a lot of 648 28:46.000 --> 28:49.000 decision- making and um it's useful to 649 28:49.360 --> 28:51.015 make sure that we have guidelines that 650 28:51.039 --> 28:53.336 reinforce what we as a city are trying 651 28:53.360 --> 28:56.360 to do the reason for the deferral is 652 28:56.559 --> 28:58.296 that there are a number of issues that 653 28:58.320 --> 29:01.320 are bit outstanding in terms of the 654 29:02.399 --> 29:05.399 event funding um particularly in terms 655 29:06.159 --> 29:09.159 of the um lease equity with those 656 29:10.880 --> 29:12.616 organizations particularly in terms of 657 29:12.640 --> 29:15.096 the three-year funding situation and 658 29:15.120 --> 29:16.775 we've mentioned on a number of occasions 659 29:16.799 --> 29:19.576 that we wish to look specifically at 660 29:19.600 --> 29:22.135 Anzac Day because it is such a special 661 29:22.159 --> 29:24.056 event within the during the course of 662 29:24.080 --> 29:27.080 the year. So, this motion provides us 663 29:27.279 --> 29:29.816 with some opportunity for staff and 664 29:29.840 --> 29:32.056 counselors and perhaps even input from 665 29:32.080 --> 29:34.535 the community to look at those 666 29:34.559 --> 29:37.559 particular issues. And I'll um save 667 29:37.919 --> 29:39.895 anything else for right of reply. Thank 668 29:39.919 --> 29:40.856 you, Mr. Mayor. 669 29:40.880 --> 29:43.880 Thank you, Council Adam. Councelor 670 29:44.399 --> 29:46.696 Pauling. 671 29:46.720 --> 29:48.375 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. thank you, 672 29:48.399 --> 29:51.399 Councelor Adamweight. 673 29:51.760 --> 29:53.976 I think I speak against although I'm 674 29:54.000 --> 29:56.135 largely in agreement and and that will 675 29:56.159 --> 29:58.375 make more sense in a little while. Um 676 29:58.399 --> 30:00.056 first of all before I start questions to 677 30:00.080 --> 30:01.895 staff. Is there a time imperative in 678 30:01.919 --> 30:04.616 relation to these changes? 679 30:04.640 --> 30:07.640 Deferred to Miss Plumber. 680 30:09.760 --> 30:12.760 through you Mr. Mayor. The um time 681 30:12.799 --> 30:15.799 frame for the um majority of the items 682 30:16.480 --> 30:19.255 to be enacted is from next calendar 683 30:19.279 --> 30:22.279 year. So the deferral tonight won't 684 30:23.120 --> 30:25.816 have a significant impact. There are 685 30:25.840 --> 30:28.840 some minor elements in the funding 686 30:28.880 --> 30:31.880 from council policy around the um 687 30:32.000 --> 30:35.000 donations component for um not for 688 30:35.760 --> 30:38.760 profofits seeking a waste levy exemption 689 30:39.039 --> 30:41.736 for disposal of goods. Um however 690 30:41.760 --> 30:43.496 council's working closely with the 691 30:43.520 --> 30:45.655 stakeholders that are involved in that 692 30:45.679 --> 30:48.679 component and can work through um their 693 30:48.720 --> 30:51.655 challenges until this has come back and 694 30:51.679 --> 30:53.255 has been resolved. 695 30:53.279 --> 30:55.336 Okay, cool. Thank you. Um followup 696 30:55.360 --> 30:56.936 question through you Mr. May if you 697 30:56.960 --> 30:59.960 would. Um why in relation to this one I 698 31:00.240 --> 31:01.336 understand we we've dealt with other 699 31:01.360 --> 31:03.416 policies that seem that been mainly 700 31:03.440 --> 31:05.736 internal. This is quite an external 701 31:05.760 --> 31:08.760 engaging policy. Why has there been no 702 31:09.120 --> 31:11.655 or could there be public exhibition in 703 31:11.679 --> 31:13.496 relation to these policies? 704 31:13.520 --> 31:16.520 Miss Plumber. 705 31:18.640 --> 31:21.576 through you, Mr. Mayor. So the 706 31:21.600 --> 31:23.576 policies aren't recommended for public 707 31:23.600 --> 31:25.816 exhibition because they don't um meet 708 31:25.840 --> 31:28.296 the criteria that we set through our um 709 31:28.320 --> 31:31.320 procedure for um creating policies. 710 31:31.679 --> 31:34.679 their um impact um is on is not on the 711 31:36.399 --> 31:38.375 whole community and not on the like the 712 31:38.399 --> 31:40.296 the broad community and it's a policy 713 31:40.320 --> 31:43.320 direction that council sets. So um it's 714 31:44.000 --> 31:46.056 not something that we would seek the 715 31:46.080 --> 31:48.696 community's engagement on. that being 716 31:48.720 --> 31:51.720 said the um under part C from what I 717 31:52.799 --> 31:55.416 understand um through that process of 718 31:55.440 --> 31:57.336 further consideration 719 31:57.360 --> 32:00.135 we um can there are specific 720 32:00.159 --> 32:02.375 stakeholders I guess that are involved 721 32:02.399 --> 32:05.176 in this process that we can seek further 722 32:05.200 --> 32:08.200 input from as part of um those 723 32:08.399 --> 32:09.976 investigations and we can include that 724 32:10.000 --> 32:11.976 in the information that we come back to 725 32:12.000 --> 32:13.336 councilors with. 726 32:13.360 --> 32:15.096 Okay. Yep. Cool. Um follow-up question 727 32:15.120 --> 32:16.775 through you Mr. Mayor. Is there a 728 32:16.799 --> 32:19.576 specific impediment to public exhibition 729 32:19.600 --> 32:21.655 in relation to these policies? 730 32:21.679 --> 32:24.679 Miss Palmer. 731 32:24.880 --> 32:26.456 through you, Mr. Mayor. No, there's 732 32:26.480 --> 32:29.480 no nothing specific that would um that 733 32:29.760 --> 32:31.255 would stop us from putting it on public 734 32:31.279 --> 32:32.936 exhibition. It would just be the time 735 32:32.960 --> 32:35.495 then to go through that process. 736 32:35.519 --> 32:37.495 Okay, cool. Very last question through 737 32:37.519 --> 32:38.616 you, Mr. Mayor. 738 32:38.640 --> 32:40.375 In terms of that time that we talked 739 32:40.399 --> 32:41.976 about, does that conflict with the 740 32:42.000 --> 32:43.655 initial response about that timeliness 741 32:43.679 --> 32:46.679 imperative? 742 32:47.039 --> 32:50.039 Miss Palmer. 743 32:54.640 --> 32:57.336 thank you through you, Mr. Mayor. So 744 32:57.360 --> 33:00.360 um we could seek to do that and have 745 33:01.279 --> 33:02.856 it back to council before the end of 746 33:02.880 --> 33:04.456 this calendar year, which would meet 747 33:04.480 --> 33:06.296 those time frames that we talked about 748 33:06.320 --> 33:08.375 earlier. it would be very tight and 749 33:08.399 --> 33:09.976 it would depend. There's no statutory 750 33:10.000 --> 33:11.576 exhibition period, so it would be 751 33:11.600 --> 33:13.655 dependent on how long councilors chose 752 33:13.679 --> 33:15.976 to put it on exhibition for. 753 33:16.000 --> 33:18.135 Okay, cool. Thank you. Um, that's the 754 33:18.159 --> 33:20.216 end of my questions. Um, Mr. Mayor, 755 33:20.240 --> 33:22.775 fellow counselors, I I think council did 756 33:22.799 --> 33:24.056 a really good job of highlighting some 757 33:24.080 --> 33:26.216 of the issues that are being faced 758 33:26.240 --> 33:27.816 particularly in relation to this the 759 33:27.840 --> 33:30.840 second policy that's there. Um, for 760 33:30.960 --> 33:32.216 those that are interested, there's quite 761 33:32.240 --> 33:34.375 a number of changes to both policies. 762 33:34.399 --> 33:37.399 , and I understand that in in some 763 33:37.440 --> 33:38.936 ways there's a degree of inconsistency. 764 33:38.960 --> 33:40.216 We've dealt with a lot of policies, but 765 33:40.240 --> 33:41.976 as I said, I saw those very much as 766 33:42.000 --> 33:44.616 internal dealing with us. This is very 767 33:44.640 --> 33:47.640 much potentially external. I I take um 768 33:47.679 --> 33:49.416 the point that has been made from staff 769 33:49.440 --> 33:51.576 in relation to it doesn't apply to 770 33:51.600 --> 33:53.736 everyone, but it could. It's one of 771 33:53.760 --> 33:56.535 those things of technically anyone, any 772 33:56.559 --> 33:57.816 resident of the city could be a member 773 33:57.840 --> 33:59.336 of one of these organizations, could 774 33:59.360 --> 34:01.336 apply in some way, shape, or form, and 775 34:01.360 --> 34:03.976 or be affected by that in some way. 776 34:04.000 --> 34:06.775 in that regard as I said I'm very 777 34:06.799 --> 34:09.016 much with councelor Adams weight on this 778 34:09.040 --> 34:11.496 other than I personally would like to 779 34:11.520 --> 34:14.296 see both policies deferred 780 34:14.320 --> 34:17.320 and taken out for 28 days um 781 34:19.040 --> 34:21.095 consideration in public access to get a 782 34:21.119 --> 34:22.296 feel for what does the public think 783 34:22.320 --> 34:25.320 about what we're doing here. 784 34:26.079 --> 34:28.456 it's probably a bit awkward in terms of 785 34:28.480 --> 34:31.335 asking that to be taken on. um which 786 34:31.359 --> 34:32.375 probably leaves me with no alternative 787 34:32.399 --> 34:34.216 but to move an amendment which I don't I 788 34:34.240 --> 34:35.496 don't really want to try and do in this 789 34:35.520 --> 34:37.095 instance but in that regard I suppose 790 34:37.119 --> 34:38.536 Mr. May I don't know I've got much 791 34:38.560 --> 34:41.560 choice other than move an amendment that 792 34:42.720 --> 34:45.176 both policy 793 34:45.200 --> 34:47.256 sorry that yeah the both policies be put 794 34:47.280 --> 34:49.496 on public exhibition for a period of no 795 34:49.520 --> 34:52.520 less than 28 days. 796 34:56.879 --> 34:59.879 So just to be clear, you're effectively 797 35:01.680 --> 35:04.055 when we're we're not going to resend 798 35:04.079 --> 35:07.079 the existing or we are we're effectively 799 35:08.720 --> 35:10.776 what you'd be looking for a C. You'd 800 35:10.800 --> 35:13.800 keep C, but you would do away with A and 801 35:13.839 --> 35:16.839 B and you would defer the 802 35:17.280 --> 35:20.280 sponsorship from council policy. 803 35:21.359 --> 35:23.656 M I was thinking AC across the board 804 35:23.680 --> 35:25.575 like for me I'm I'm happy for status quo 805 35:25.599 --> 35:27.095 to remain. 806 35:27.119 --> 35:28.616 until amended. 807 35:28.640 --> 35:31.095 And I think that we should go rescending 808 35:31.119 --> 35:34.119 or anything. 809 35:35.680 --> 35:38.456 So it I think the amendment is as simple 810 35:38.480 --> 35:41.095 as amen amend the the review of these 811 35:41.119 --> 35:44.119 policies. Oh, sorry. Um place the 812 35:44.800 --> 35:46.936 revised policies on exhibition for a 813 35:46.960 --> 35:49.960 period of no less than 28 days. 814 35:52.720 --> 35:54.776 happy to be guided on on wording, but 815 35:54.800 --> 35:56.936 that's what my intent is. Hey, look, 816 35:56.960 --> 35:59.095 take pause, 817 35:59.119 --> 36:01.976 take some community input, and then 818 36:02.000 --> 36:03.176 revisit. 819 36:03.200 --> 36:05.976 Okay. 820 36:06.000 --> 36:07.416 I certainly have no issue with the 821 36:07.440 --> 36:08.936 content 822 36:08.960 --> 36:11.656 that's been highlighted by council Adam, 823 36:11.680 --> 36:13.176 but I I suppose I'll shut up and look 824 36:13.200 --> 36:15.335 for a second before I talk too much. 825 36:15.359 --> 36:18.136 Yeah. So, just before we move forward 826 36:18.160 --> 36:21.160 and seek a second, 827 36:21.760 --> 36:24.136 we'll just make sure we're clear on what 828 36:24.160 --> 36:25.976 you're proposing and what we're asking 829 36:26.000 --> 36:29.000 for. 830 36:43.839 --> 36:46.839 Heat. 831 36:56.640 --> 36:59.640 Heat. 832 37:21.520 --> 37:22.776 I think that's an excellent job. Thank 833 37:22.800 --> 37:23.016 you. 834 37:23.040 --> 37:23.896 That's what you're after. Y 835 37:23.920 --> 37:24.856 that'd be awesome. Thank you. 836 37:24.880 --> 37:27.256 Thank you, Councelor Pauling. I'll look 837 37:27.280 --> 37:30.280 for a seconder for that amendment. 838 37:30.880 --> 37:33.095 Councelor Swinsburg. Happy to go in that 839 37:33.119 --> 37:35.736 direction. Thank you. Councelor Pauling, 840 37:35.760 --> 37:38.456 did you want to speak to your amendment? 841 37:38.480 --> 37:40.216 Only very briefly. Um, I don't think 842 37:40.240 --> 37:41.656 this isn't necessarily in contradiction 843 37:41.680 --> 37:43.256 to what's been put before. This is 844 37:43.280 --> 37:44.456 certainly standing on the shoulders of 845 37:44.480 --> 37:47.095 giants. Um, and I hope it's taken in 846 37:47.119 --> 37:49.016 that light by my fellow councilors. When 847 37:49.040 --> 37:50.296 I read it there, like there's quite a 848 37:50.320 --> 37:52.936 lot of red ink in both these policies. 849 37:52.960 --> 37:55.656 Um, how significant that might be to 850 37:55.680 --> 37:57.416 some members of the community, I can't 851 37:57.440 --> 37:58.776 really tell to tell you the truth. I 852 37:58.800 --> 38:00.055 think there's a whole range of questions 853 38:00.079 --> 38:01.656 about what this might mean in other 854 38:01.680 --> 38:03.815 areas of how we do things and and I 855 38:03.839 --> 38:05.416 think it is is appropriate that we take 856 38:05.440 --> 38:08.055 pause, get that right and certainly get 857 38:08.079 --> 38:09.656 some community input. Beyond that, Mr. 858 38:09.680 --> 38:11.176 Mayor, I won't say anything else at this 859 38:11.200 --> 38:12.216 stage. Thank you. 860 38:12.240 --> 38:13.815 Thank you. 861 38:13.839 --> 38:15.815 Yep. councelor Buckley, you're 862 38:15.839 --> 38:18.839 looking for the call. 863 38:19.440 --> 38:22.440 It was it was to do with Yeah. No, I'll 864 38:22.640 --> 38:24.376 I'll I'll um withdraw. Thank you. 865 38:24.400 --> 38:27.400 No worries. Thank you, Councelor Grigg. 866 38:27.920 --> 38:29.736 Oh, thank you Mr. Mayor. I'm not sure 867 38:29.760 --> 38:32.536 it's still relevant actually, but on 868 38:32.560 --> 38:34.856 the top of page two there, I just like 869 38:34.880 --> 38:37.880 some clarification. Oh, sorry, page 38. 870 38:38.160 --> 38:40.776 I beg you pardon. It just under 871 38:40.800 --> 38:43.095 funding from council policy, it says the 872 38:43.119 --> 38:44.696 policy has been updated to remove 873 38:44.720 --> 38:47.656 details on funding rounds as details on 874 38:47.680 --> 38:49.416 the specific funding rounds are 875 38:49.440 --> 38:52.440 available and eligibility criteria are 876 38:52.640 --> 38:55.335 operational and managed by separate 877 38:55.359 --> 38:56.936 criterion assessment. It's all a bit 878 38:56.960 --> 38:58.376 ambiguous to me. Can I get some more 879 38:58.400 --> 38:59.736 detail from staff on that? 880 38:59.760 --> 39:02.760 Yeah, Miss Plumber 881 39:17.359 --> 39:19.176 three Mr. Mayor. So, sorry just 882 39:19.200 --> 39:20.616 checking the question was can we just 883 39:20.640 --> 39:22.296 get some more detail on what is meant by 884 39:22.320 --> 39:25.320 the wording on page? just wondering why 885 39:25.440 --> 39:26.936 um 886 39:26.960 --> 39:29.960 why the eligibility criteria are being 887 39:30.000 --> 39:33.000 um removed. 888 39:33.920 --> 39:34.376 yes. 889 39:34.400 --> 39:35.815 And and what does that mean? 890 39:35.839 --> 39:38.839 So yeah, through you Mr. Mayor. So the 891 39:40.079 --> 39:43.016 um yeah the so the criteria itself 892 39:43.040 --> 39:46.040 there's um the purpose of the the policy 893 39:46.720 --> 39:49.016 is being updated to capture the purpose 894 39:49.040 --> 39:52.040 of the funding and then because there's 895 39:52.079 --> 39:55.079 a number of different funding like 896 39:55.599 --> 39:57.976 components. There's the events and 897 39:58.000 --> 39:59.815 festivals and then there's all the other 898 39:59.839 --> 40:01.976 different um grant um and funding 899 40:02.000 --> 40:04.376 programs. those each of those individual 900 40:04.400 --> 40:06.536 programs has its own criteria and that's 901 40:06.560 --> 40:09.560 detailed in a in a procedure document 902 40:10.160 --> 40:13.160 that supports each of those each of 903 40:13.359 --> 40:15.575 those activities as opposed to it being 904 40:15.599 --> 40:17.815 in the policy itself. 905 40:17.839 --> 40:19.815 Okay. So that's that's a staff issue not 906 40:19.839 --> 40:21.416 a not a public issue. 907 40:21.440 --> 40:21.976 Yes. 908 40:22.000 --> 40:23.736 Correct. So nothing's changing in that 909 40:23.760 --> 40:26.760 area with this with the public. 910 40:28.960 --> 40:31.416 Sorry. Yes. Through Mr. Man. So, at the 911 40:31.440 --> 40:33.176 moment, that level of detail is captured 912 40:33.200 --> 40:35.335 in in the individual procedures that 913 40:35.359 --> 40:38.359 support each of those items and don't um 914 40:40.079 --> 40:41.976 aren't outlined specifically for each 915 40:42.000 --> 40:44.296 area in the policy itself. 916 40:44.320 --> 40:46.296 Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. 917 40:46.320 --> 40:49.320 Thank you. , Councelor Adams Way. 918 40:51.599 --> 40:54.599 , yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, 919 40:54.880 --> 40:57.656 thanks for, , your suggestion in terms 920 40:57.680 --> 40:59.575 of that, councelor Pauling. When I first 921 40:59.599 --> 41:01.815 read the recommendation, that was my 922 41:01.839 --> 41:04.839 first initial response to um to look at 923 41:05.760 --> 41:08.760 it going out to public exhibition. 924 41:09.200 --> 41:11.976 However, looking through the process 925 41:12.000 --> 41:14.776 that it wasn't actually a universal 926 41:14.800 --> 41:16.776 thing to the city, I could understand 927 41:16.800 --> 41:18.936 the point of view of council that it 928 41:18.960 --> 41:20.856 wasn't going out for public exhibition. 929 41:20.880 --> 41:22.536 Um, I'm not sure whether I'm speaking 930 41:22.560 --> 41:25.335 for or against because either way I'm 931 41:25.359 --> 41:27.416 happy with the result of these 932 41:27.440 --> 41:30.136 particular motions. The only concern I 933 41:30.160 --> 41:32.856 do have with the amendment is that it 934 41:32.880 --> 41:35.095 doesn't actually specify what the 935 41:35.119 --> 41:38.119 further investigation is. Um, and 936 41:39.040 --> 41:42.040 that was why I put um C in the original 937 41:42.480 --> 41:44.856 one. if there was a way of 938 41:44.880 --> 41:47.880 ensuring that the counselors can be 939 41:48.240 --> 41:50.856 involved in discussions in those 940 41:50.880 --> 41:53.736 particular areas um then I think it 941 41:53.760 --> 41:56.216 would produce a better product rather 942 41:56.240 --> 41:59.176 than just a report from community 943 41:59.200 --> 42:01.656 consultation. Community consultation 944 42:01.680 --> 42:04.680 report could well have very little for 945 42:04.800 --> 42:07.575 us and we would still need to then talk 946 42:07.599 --> 42:09.736 about the issues that are raised in 947 42:09.760 --> 42:12.760 section C. So, I I 948 42:13.280 --> 42:16.136 sit at the the behest of council in 949 42:16.160 --> 42:19.160 terms of that. Um but some form of 950 42:19.839 --> 42:22.536 hybrid of both probably gets us to where 951 42:22.560 --> 42:24.936 we're going. But as I said, I will not 952 42:24.960 --> 42:27.335 be unhappy with either of these 953 42:27.359 --> 42:30.359 outcomes. Thank you, Councelor Adams. 954 42:30.480 --> 42:32.856 I was just going to contribute in 955 42:32.880 --> 42:34.696 that 956 42:34.720 --> 42:37.176 Yeah, I agree with the deferral. I just 957 42:37.200 --> 42:40.200 don't know in terms of going out and 958 42:40.400 --> 42:43.400 providing the the policies putting them 959 42:43.440 --> 42:45.976 on public exhibition 960 42:46.000 --> 42:49.000 um what net benefit that they will h 961 42:49.119 --> 42:51.335 that will have. when I was reading 962 42:51.359 --> 42:54.359 the report I was 963 42:54.640 --> 42:57.256 a bit confused between what I was 964 42:57.280 --> 42:59.656 reading in the report and the policies 965 42:59.680 --> 43:02.680 in that um 966 43:03.280 --> 43:05.976 you know talk of Anzac Day obviously 967 43:06.000 --> 43:09.000 there's been talk that Anzac Day will be 968 43:09.359 --> 43:12.359 carved out and there will be allocated 969 43:13.119 --> 43:16.119 funding for that at some point that 970 43:17.040 --> 43:19.656 wasn't encapsulated here but to my 971 43:19.680 --> 43:21.575 understanding standing in the original 972 43:21.599 --> 43:24.599 recommendation, Anzac Day was included. 973 43:25.520 --> 43:28.216 Um, the other areas of concern that I 974 43:28.240 --> 43:31.240 had was on page 41 where it said, , 975 43:34.560 --> 43:37.560 actually page 39 initially where it 976 43:38.240 --> 43:41.240 referred to a 3-year funding limitation 977 43:41.760 --> 43:43.496 which would start from the 1st of 978 43:43.520 --> 43:46.520 January 2026 and effectively kick in 979 43:46.560 --> 43:49.560 from 1 January 2029. Um I'm of the view 980 43:50.960 --> 43:53.960 that it's best to have a meritocracy if 981 43:56.240 --> 43:59.016 something is being funded 982 43:59.040 --> 44:00.696 983 44:00.720 --> 44:03.095 it should be based on merit rather than 984 44:03.119 --> 44:05.335 look we've been doing this for 3 years 985 44:05.359 --> 44:08.359 we can't do it for a fourth arbitrarily 986 44:08.800 --> 44:11.496 if it's been working why wouldn't you 987 44:11.520 --> 44:14.055 continue doing that so that was an area 988 44:14.079 --> 44:15.575 of 989 44:15.599 --> 44:18.456 concern when reading the report and then 990 44:18.480 --> 44:21.480 on page page 41. The other big area of 991 44:22.000 --> 44:25.000 concern was under the next steps where 992 44:25.280 --> 44:28.280 it said organizations with a history of 993 44:28.480 --> 44:31.256 receiving multiple forms of council 994 44:31.280 --> 44:34.136 funding, particularly those benefiting 995 44:34.160 --> 44:37.160 from subsidized leases and event support 996 44:37.359 --> 44:40.295 such as surf clubs and RSLs will be 997 44:40.319 --> 44:42.696 contacted individually. 998 44:42.720 --> 44:45.720 Contacted for what? Um, I didn't between 999 44:46.319 --> 44:48.295 reading the policies, reading the 1000 44:48.319 --> 44:51.319 report, I was perplexed as to what we 1001 44:52.160 --> 44:55.160 were actually being asked to vote on. 1002 44:56.079 --> 44:59.079 Um, I know that we've signed, you know, 1003 44:59.599 --> 45:02.055 new 20-year leases with our surf life 1004 45:02.079 --> 45:04.616 saving clubs for Caves Beach, Redhead, 1005 45:04.640 --> 45:07.640 and Belmont, Swansy Belmont. Um, and 1006 45:08.640 --> 45:11.640 then also it talks about on page 42, 1007 45:12.560 --> 45:15.560 $600,000 or an annual pool of $600,000, 1008 45:17.200 --> 45:20.200 but in key considerations under economic 1009 45:21.440 --> 45:24.055 then yeah, the the call out there adds 1010 45:24.079 --> 45:27.079 up to about $450. So, I'm just I agree 1011 45:28.319 --> 45:30.936 in deferring. I just don't I've got a 1012 45:30.960 --> 45:33.960 fly on me. I don't um 1013 45:36.400 --> 45:38.936 if I can't interpret 1014 45:38.960 --> 45:41.960 the policy and the report, what will the 1015 45:43.119 --> 45:45.575 public's 1016 45:45.599 --> 45:48.599 um interpretation be 1017 45:49.040 --> 45:52.040 would be my area of 1018 45:52.400 --> 45:55.400 cons concern. Um I I don't know what 1019 45:56.079 --> 45:59.079 other counselors think or if if they're 1020 45:59.359 --> 46:02.359 of a similar mind, but um that's you 1021 46:03.119 --> 46:04.856 know, you can put the policy out, but if 1022 46:04.880 --> 46:07.656 the policy isn't accompanied by a report 1023 46:07.680 --> 46:10.680 or information, you mightn't get any 1024 46:10.720 --> 46:13.016 appropriate feedback 1025 46:13.040 --> 46:15.256 and I'm only asking these questions when 1026 46:15.280 --> 46:18.055 I've got both 1027 46:18.079 --> 46:20.536 would be my contribution to this 1028 46:20.560 --> 46:23.560 discussion. Councelor Polling. 1029 46:24.240 --> 46:26.456 Oh, sorry. Councelor Buckley, you're 1030 46:26.480 --> 46:29.176 looking for the call. 1031 46:29.200 --> 46:31.815 Thank you, madam. Um, Mr. Mayor, um, 1032 46:31.839 --> 46:33.896 look, I'm con 1033 46:33.920 --> 46:35.335 I'm confused. 1034 46:35.359 --> 46:35.656 Yeah, 1035 46:35.680 --> 46:38.376 we've had a workshop regarding this a 1036 46:38.400 --> 46:41.400 couple of Well, was it month ago? Um, we 1037 46:41.599 --> 46:44.599 worked through everything. It It to me, 1038 46:44.720 --> 46:47.416 it just seems like we're going back 1039 46:47.440 --> 46:49.496 around 1040 46:49.520 --> 46:52.520 and around and around. um as someone who 1041 46:53.040 --> 46:56.040 is on the um the one of the funding 1042 46:56.960 --> 46:58.696 panels, 1043 46:58.720 --> 47:01.416 it's a big job. It's one that's not 1044 47:01.440 --> 47:04.216 taken lightly. It takes a lot of time. 1045 47:04.240 --> 47:07.240 Um 1046 47:07.680 --> 47:10.680 it's interesting that um the suggestions 1047 47:11.839 --> 47:13.976 about the changes 1048 47:14.000 --> 47:16.856 are in somewhat coming from people who 1049 47:16.880 --> 47:18.456 aren't on those funding programs and 1050 47:18.480 --> 47:20.776 haven't had that experience. 1051 47:20.800 --> 47:23.800 Um, and that concerns me. Um, I don't 1052 47:24.640 --> 47:27.256 know whether I can support the 1053 47:27.280 --> 47:30.280 amendment. Um, I didn't have any issues 1054 47:31.280 --> 47:34.280 with the um with the policy. 1055 47:36.560 --> 47:38.536 I don't know whether putting it out to 1056 47:38.560 --> 47:40.856 exhibition is going to make a great deal 1057 47:40.880 --> 47:43.880 of difference because it's um it it's 1058 47:45.520 --> 47:47.176 operational 1059 47:47.200 --> 47:50.200 um and in operational matters we have to 1060 47:51.599 --> 47:53.095 work with what we've got. We've got to 1061 47:53.119 --> 47:55.176 work with the funding that we have. 1062 47:55.200 --> 47:56.616 Yeah, sure. We'd like to have more 1063 47:56.640 --> 47:58.295 funding and I'm sure if we put it out on 1064 47:58.319 --> 48:00.055 exhibition, there'd be a lot of 1065 48:00.079 --> 48:02.136 community be saying, "Yes, we want we 1066 48:02.160 --> 48:05.160 want more money. we we want our um you 1067 48:05.839 --> 48:08.776 know the criteria to change so that we 1068 48:08.800 --> 48:11.800 can get funding. Um I I just think it's 1069 48:14.880 --> 48:17.496 I just think it's making more work um 1070 48:17.520 --> 48:20.520 that we don't necessarily need to um to 1071 48:20.880 --> 48:23.880 do. So that's that's my 1072 48:25.599 --> 48:28.055 my comment on that. Thank you. 1073 48:28.079 --> 48:30.055 Thank you councelor Buckley. Councelor 1074 48:30.079 --> 48:31.095 Pauling. 1075 48:31.119 --> 48:33.016 Thank you Mr. Mayor. I'll test the will 1076 48:33.040 --> 48:35.496 of the council. Um I think taking some 1077 48:35.520 --> 48:37.575 of the commentary from others on board, 1078 48:37.599 --> 48:39.736 certainly I'd be happy to incorporate 1079 48:39.760 --> 48:42.295 the majority of part C of the previous 1080 48:42.319 --> 48:45.319 motion into the amendment if there was 1081 48:45.920 --> 48:48.920 no objection from the floor. 1082 48:54.000 --> 48:55.575 So that's report back to council. Yeah. 1083 48:55.599 --> 48:58.599 Along those lines. Yeah. 1084 49:00.079 --> 49:03.079 So just to be clear, so you um A and B 1085 49:03.760 --> 49:06.760 would continue place the 1086 49:07.200 --> 49:10.200 effectively defers review of the 1087 49:10.319 --> 49:12.456 sponsorship agreement and the funding 1088 49:12.480 --> 49:15.016 for council policy 1089 49:15.040 --> 49:18.040 places both of them on public exhibition 1090 49:19.599 --> 49:22.599 and then do you want to talk to C that 1091 49:23.440 --> 49:25.416 you're amended C and provide some 1092 49:25.440 --> 49:28.440 context? I think councelor's always 1093 49:28.640 --> 49:29.896 already done that better than I ever 1094 49:29.920 --> 49:32.216 could in terms of the the basis of some 1095 49:32.240 --> 49:33.736 of the questions that were that were 1096 49:33.760 --> 49:35.896 raised in the first instance. So trying 1097 49:35.920 --> 49:38.616 to pull some of the threads together. Um 1098 49:38.640 --> 49:41.016 so if we need a procedural motion, so be 1099 49:41.040 --> 49:43.176 it. But no, there doesn't appear to be 1100 49:43.200 --> 49:45.256 any disscent 1101 49:45.280 --> 49:46.535 from the floor in terms of that 1102 49:46.559 --> 49:47.176 amendment. 1103 49:47.200 --> 49:47.815 Yep. 1104 49:47.839 --> 49:50.776 Cool. I I'll just check. Council 1105 49:50.800 --> 49:52.456 Swinsburg as a secondary. Are you happy 1106 49:52.480 --> 49:54.856 to take that on as well? 1107 49:54.880 --> 49:56.856 Yep. Councelor Swinsburg's happy to take 1108 49:56.880 --> 49:58.616 on that addition. 1109 49:58.640 --> 50:01.176 Awesome. Thank you. Um given that we're 1110 50:01.200 --> 50:02.535 in committee, I'm pretty sure I'm 1111 50:02.559 --> 50:03.335 allowed to talk again. 1112 50:03.359 --> 50:04.136 You are. 1113 50:04.160 --> 50:07.160 Um and soon I'll be able to talk for as 1114 50:07.280 --> 50:09.016 long as I like given there'll be no 5 1115 50:09.040 --> 50:11.496 minute limit. 1116 50:11.520 --> 50:14.520 Sweeping metals aside 1117 50:14.640 --> 50:15.896 listening to everyone once again, 1118 50:15.920 --> 50:17.736 Councelor Buckley makes some some valid 1119 50:17.760 --> 50:19.496 points, but I don't know that I'm on the 1120 50:19.520 --> 50:22.456 same page. Yep. Workshops have been 1121 50:22.480 --> 50:24.295 great. committee members. I understand 1122 50:24.319 --> 50:26.055 that they're very comfortable with it. 1123 50:26.079 --> 50:28.136 And yet, I think the commentary from 1124 50:28.160 --> 50:30.055 council very clearly this evening has 1125 50:30.079 --> 50:32.216 been, hey, we're not really on board 1126 50:32.240 --> 50:33.575 here. We've got different 1127 50:33.599 --> 50:35.256 interpretations of what this might mean 1128 50:35.280 --> 50:37.095 and other potential loose ends that we 1129 50:37.119 --> 50:39.496 don't fully understand yet. U the next 1130 50:39.520 --> 50:42.520 bit is there's a a little bit of this is 1131 50:43.440 --> 50:46.216 operational and we know best. We don't, 1132 50:46.240 --> 50:48.535 you know, community, we don't really 1133 50:48.559 --> 50:49.896 care what you think too much here, but 1134 50:49.920 --> 50:52.456 the end of the day, this is $600,000 1135 50:52.480 --> 50:54.136 going to the community. They are 1136 50:54.160 --> 50:56.376 impacted. And if the community feedback 1137 50:56.400 --> 50:58.295 came back and said, "Hey, we would like 1138 50:58.319 --> 50:59.656 more money. This would be really useful 1139 50:59.680 --> 51:01.416 in this way. This would be more useful 1140 51:01.440 --> 51:04.216 in this way. You are hard to deal with 1141 51:04.240 --> 51:06.216 because your application process is is 1142 51:06.240 --> 51:07.575 difficult or whatever that feedback 1143 51:07.599 --> 51:09.815 might be." How cool is that? I think 1144 51:09.839 --> 51:12.295 that's exactly what we want. So for me, 1145 51:12.319 --> 51:14.856 I I understand the potential opposition 1146 51:14.880 --> 51:16.616 to say, "Hey, is there any advantage in 1147 51:16.640 --> 51:19.176 taking this to public exhibition? Maybe, 1148 51:19.200 --> 51:21.575 maybe not." I think there is enormous 1149 51:21.599 --> 51:24.295 potential for that in this regard, 1150 51:24.319 --> 51:25.976 particularly if we've always treated 1151 51:26.000 --> 51:27.896 this as an internal policy and the 1152 51:27.920 --> 51:29.896 public's never had a good look at it. 1153 51:29.920 --> 51:32.856 Worst case, no one responds. I'm 1154 51:32.880 --> 51:35.880 mistaken. And we wasted 28 days and some 1155 51:36.960 --> 51:39.960 staff resource. Um, but I think the 1156 51:40.160 --> 51:43.160 opportunity for the community to have a 1157 51:43.280 --> 51:45.016 say in relation to community funding 1158 51:45.040 --> 51:47.496 matters more than outweighs that risk. 1159 51:47.520 --> 51:49.256 And in that regard, I hope councilors 1160 51:49.280 --> 51:51.575 see it the other way andor 1161 51:51.599 --> 51:53.656 um foreshadow amendment and continue 1162 51:53.680 --> 51:55.416 down these lines in some way till we get 1163 51:55.440 --> 51:57.815 something where um we get a policy that 1164 51:57.839 --> 51:59.736 we are all happy with. Thank you. 1165 51:59.760 --> 52:01.496 Thank you, Council Ping. Councelor 1166 52:01.520 --> 52:04.520 Warner. 1167 52:06.400 --> 52:08.136 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just a quick 1168 52:08.160 --> 52:09.815 question to staff, I guess, following on 1169 52:09.839 --> 52:12.839 from that comment. Um, I suppose if we 1170 52:13.040 --> 52:16.040 were to go out to public exhibition, we 1171 52:16.240 --> 52:18.696 would need to address specifically, 1172 52:18.720 --> 52:21.176 would we not, about the scope of 1173 52:21.200 --> 52:22.696 funding? We're not talking about 1174 52:22.720 --> 52:24.776 increasing the amount. That would be a 1175 52:24.800 --> 52:26.856 specific question to the community, 1176 52:26.880 --> 52:29.656 wouldn't it? 1177 52:29.680 --> 52:32.680 , I'll defer to the CEO, Mr. Farrell. 1178 52:35.680 --> 52:38.680 Mr. Mayor, we would um not be in a 1179 52:39.200 --> 52:42.136 position to um suggest alternative 1180 52:42.160 --> 52:43.416 funding. Council's adopted its 1181 52:43.440 --> 52:45.656 operational plan for the current year. 1182 52:45.680 --> 52:48.456 Um it's not we certainly may get that 1183 52:48.480 --> 52:50.776 feedback. Um we certainly provide 1184 52:50.800 --> 52:53.416 information about the scope of the 1185 52:53.440 --> 52:55.095 program so that people had an idea of 1186 52:55.119 --> 52:58.119 what they were commenting on, but um 1187 52:58.640 --> 53:01.016 you're correct. We wouldn't be proposal 1188 53:01.040 --> 53:03.815 to increase the funding. And so 1189 53:03.839 --> 53:05.095 following on from that, there would be 1190 53:05.119 --> 53:07.815 an opportunity um I guess in our 1191 53:07.839 --> 53:10.839 operational plan for public um feedback 1192 53:11.680 --> 53:14.680 in relation to our events funding there. 1193 53:15.200 --> 53:18.200 No. Um Mr. Mayor, we would be not far 1194 53:19.359 --> 53:21.416 away from starting our consultation on 1195 53:21.440 --> 53:24.440 our next operational plan for 26 27. So 1196 53:25.920 --> 53:27.496 um I doubt the two things would 1197 53:27.520 --> 53:28.936 completely cross over, but we could 1198 53:28.960 --> 53:30.456 certainly steer people towards the 1199 53:30.480 --> 53:33.480 operational um 1200 53:33.520 --> 53:34.456 engagement 1201 53:34.480 --> 53:36.776 and so Io I suppose that's where I sort 1202 53:36.800 --> 53:38.535 of stand there is an opportunity for the 1203 53:38.559 --> 53:40.936 public to be able to comment already um 1204 53:40.960 --> 53:43.256 and we will be going back to the public 1205 53:43.280 --> 53:45.815 in relation to that um I guess another 1206 53:45.839 --> 53:48.839 question following on I do note on page 1207 53:49.359 --> 53:51.335 38 that the procedure is going to 1208 53:51.359 --> 53:53.896 include a new section implementation 1209 53:53.920 --> 53:56.216 coordination and governance and it says 1210 53:56.240 --> 53:57.896 that it will provide clarity and 1211 53:57.920 --> 53:59.416 structure of funding officers to meet 1212 53:59.440 --> 54:01.656 bianually to identifi identify and 1213 54:01.680 --> 54:03.496 address issues and opportunities across 1214 54:03.520 --> 54:06.376 council funding programs. Um just a 1215 54:06.400 --> 54:09.400 question of staff, would that be able to 1216 54:09.599 --> 54:12.599 um provide an opportunity to um provide 1217 54:13.520 --> 54:16.520 some feedback at that point um 1218 54:17.280 --> 54:19.496 through and review some of the 1219 54:19.520 --> 54:22.055 programming? Does that potentially 1220 54:22.079 --> 54:23.496 address that? 1221 54:23.520 --> 54:26.520 Yes. Plumber. 1222 54:26.800 --> 54:29.800 yes, through you, Mr. Mayor. So um 1223 54:29.839 --> 54:32.776 yes that would look at um barriers and 1224 54:32.800 --> 54:35.800 things that are causing challenges to 1225 54:35.839 --> 54:37.575 people accessing the funding or whether 1226 54:37.599 --> 54:40.599 it's a um process thing with the smarty 1227 54:40.640 --> 54:42.295 grants or whatever it might be and look 1228 54:42.319 --> 54:43.896 at how we can refine that pro the 1229 54:43.920 --> 54:46.696 processes and and I get um and the the 1230 54:46.720 --> 54:48.136 reason it's called out in here is 1231 54:48.160 --> 54:51.160 because um that would be done in a in a 1232 54:53.440 --> 54:56.440 cons like in a collaborative way. You'll 1233 54:57.520 --> 54:59.496 note that there's a number of different 1234 54:59.520 --> 55:01.976 um areas that we offer funding through 1235 55:02.000 --> 55:05.000 the funding from council policy. Um and 1236 55:05.520 --> 55:08.136 so rather than each of those going 1237 55:08.160 --> 55:10.216 through their administrative process in 1238 55:10.240 --> 55:13.240 a as a standalone um component, the 1239 55:13.280 --> 55:15.575 intention of this piece is that we share 1240 55:15.599 --> 55:18.136 lessons learned and um and share that 1241 55:18.160 --> 55:19.416 feedback across all those different 1242 55:19.440 --> 55:21.815 areas on a regular basis so that we can 1243 55:21.839 --> 55:24.616 maintain consistency in approach um to 1244 55:24.640 --> 55:27.640 the community and the the applicants. 1245 55:27.680 --> 55:30.136 And so I suppose potentially through 1246 55:30.160 --> 55:31.976 that process there could be a mechanism 1247 55:32.000 --> 55:34.936 for that to be reported back to 1248 55:34.960 --> 55:37.496 councilors by way of memo or other 1249 55:37.520 --> 55:39.656 reporting. Certainly those in the 1250 55:39.680 --> 55:41.575 subcommittee already. 1251 55:41.599 --> 55:44.599 yes and through you Mr. Mayor. So in 1252 55:45.680 --> 55:48.680 terms of um reporting to council, we um 1253 55:49.119 --> 55:50.936 when we're actually awarding the funding 1254 55:50.960 --> 55:53.256 as an outcome of the process, we provide 1255 55:53.280 --> 55:56.280 a report to councilors um across each of 1256 55:56.799 --> 55:59.799 the programs and so information is also 1257 55:59.839 --> 56:02.295 provided through that channel as well. 1258 56:02.319 --> 56:05.319 Yeah. So, I think um based on that um 1259 56:06.000 --> 56:07.176 and the questions you've answered 1260 56:07.200 --> 56:09.976 already um it would seem like we already 1261 56:10.000 --> 56:12.936 have some avenues for the public to 1262 56:12.960 --> 56:15.960 actually contribute to um their concerns 1263 56:17.599 --> 56:20.376 or comments around these events and 1264 56:20.400 --> 56:21.656 fundings and what we do, what we 1265 56:21.680 --> 56:23.256 allocate each year in terms of our 1266 56:23.280 --> 56:26.280 amounts. And in relation to the scope of 1267 56:26.480 --> 56:28.216 programs, there's an opportunity for the 1268 56:28.240 --> 56:30.936 public to um the information is out 1269 56:30.960 --> 56:32.535 there and we have an internal 1270 56:32.559 --> 56:34.535 opportunity to review it. Um those that 1271 56:34.559 --> 56:35.896 are on the subcommittee are selected 1272 56:35.920 --> 56:38.616 onto that as well. Um which goes through 1273 56:38.640 --> 56:41.640 council. So, I'm inclined to say that um 1274 56:42.079 --> 56:44.376 based on my reading of where we're up to 1275 56:44.400 --> 56:45.896 that there are enough checks and 1276 56:45.920 --> 56:47.896 balances in place and I'm not sure that 1277 56:47.920 --> 56:50.920 going to the public um for public 1278 56:51.040 --> 56:53.896 exhibition and taking on the notes um 1279 56:53.920 --> 56:56.920 some of the feedback I suppose around 1280 56:57.440 --> 57:00.295 the um process could be internally 1281 57:00.319 --> 57:03.016 managed um by operations and there is a 1282 57:03.040 --> 57:04.535 process in place and I think that's 1283 57:04.559 --> 57:05.815 important to note that there are 1284 57:05.839 --> 57:08.136 processes in place. I'm not sure what 1285 57:08.160 --> 57:11.160 the 28 days will actually tell us. Um 1286 57:11.280 --> 57:13.016 and so I think there's enough checks and 1287 57:13.040 --> 57:15.016 balances in place for me to be satisfied 1288 57:15.040 --> 57:18.040 and I'll be voting in um against the um 1289 57:19.040 --> 57:22.040 amendment as it stands. Um and um think 1290 57:24.000 --> 57:25.736 about what we do in relation to that I 1291 57:25.760 --> 57:26.616 suppose. 1292 57:26.640 --> 57:29.256 Thank you councelor Warner. I had a 1293 57:29.280 --> 57:31.656 quick question to staff just in relation 1294 57:31.680 --> 57:34.680 to the public exhibition period and 1295 57:35.040 --> 57:38.040 providing the the sponsorship and the 1296 57:38.240 --> 57:40.936 funding the both policies will as part 1297 57:40.960 --> 57:43.656 of that rather than simply putting them 1298 57:43.680 --> 57:46.680 out on public exhibition will staff call 1299 57:48.240 --> 57:51.095 out effectively what the proposed 1300 57:51.119 --> 57:54.119 changes are so that the community and 1301 57:55.599 --> 57:57.896 counselors or the mayor can provide 1302 57:57.920 --> 58:00.920 feedback. back. How How will that work? 1303 58:01.839 --> 58:03.095 Go to Miss Plumber. 1304 58:03.119 --> 58:05.656 Yes, through you, Mr. Mayor. So, we um 1305 58:05.680 --> 58:07.416 when we put something on public 1306 58:07.440 --> 58:09.416 exhibition, it's not just the document, 1307 58:09.440 --> 58:11.896 the policy as a standalone document. We 1308 58:11.920 --> 58:14.856 um curate a page on Shape Lake MAC and 1309 58:14.880 --> 58:17.880 we ask for some specific questions. We 1310 58:17.920 --> 58:20.456 provide FAQs and highlight to the 1311 58:20.480 --> 58:22.775 community um the areas that we're 1312 58:22.799 --> 58:25.736 interested in their feedback. Um I'll 1313 58:25.760 --> 58:28.696 just flag as well. So the scope of what 1314 58:28.720 --> 58:30.856 we do will yeah look at that through 1315 58:30.880 --> 58:33.416 that process because um some of the 1316 58:33.440 --> 58:35.416 funding areas that we're talking about 1317 58:35.440 --> 58:38.136 like the um mines's grounding fund and 1318 58:38.160 --> 58:40.535 the local heritage place there um and 1319 58:40.559 --> 58:42.936 lead mitigation their spice funding 1320 58:42.960 --> 58:45.095 already and they have the criteria that 1321 58:45.119 --> 58:48.119 are set through those programs. So um in 1322 58:48.480 --> 58:50.456 terms of the scope of what we're seeking 1323 58:50.480 --> 58:52.616 feedback on, it would yeah focus on the 1324 58:52.640 --> 58:55.640 changes on the policy itself um and the 1325 58:56.480 --> 58:59.480 impact on that to the um community. 1326 59:00.559 --> 59:02.376 So in reference would it include 1327 59:02.400 --> 59:05.095 reference to ANZAC day? Would it include 1328 59:05.119 --> 59:07.656 reference to the lease equity program? 1329 59:07.680 --> 59:10.616 Would it include reference to 1330 59:10.640 --> 59:13.335 organizations who have received funding 1331 59:13.359 --> 59:16.359 for more than 3 years? and then those 1332 59:16.720 --> 59:19.720 proposed changes so it would be clear to 1333 59:19.839 --> 59:21.976 people providing feedback as to what 1334 59:22.000 --> 59:23.256 those changes are. 1335 59:23.280 --> 59:26.280 yes through so specifically those 1336 59:26.720 --> 59:28.856 areas raised sit under the events and 1337 59:28.880 --> 59:31.880 festivals funding component of the 1338 59:31.920 --> 59:34.376 program and so we would flag that that 1339 59:34.400 --> 59:36.456 was the area where the changes were 1340 59:36.480 --> 59:38.216 predominantly occurring. Yeah. 1341 59:38.240 --> 59:41.240 Thank you. councelor Conroy. 1342 59:41.760 --> 59:43.496 thank you Mr. Mayor. In the first 1343 59:43.520 --> 59:44.936 instance, I have a question for 1344 59:44.960 --> 59:47.575 councelor Pauling if he's um prepared to 1345 59:47.599 --> 59:50.376 answer it. just in terms of A, B, C, 1346 59:50.400 --> 59:53.400 and D. Um in terms of I note, Mayor 1347 59:54.559 --> 59:57.559 Shultz's comments earlier that placing 1348 00:59:58.319 --> 01:00:00.616 the policy on exhibition prior to 1349 01:00:00.640 --> 01:00:02.216 receiving 1350 01:00:02.240 --> 01:00:04.136 information from councilors about their 1351 01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:07.160 concerns um may 1352 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.920 be clunky. Do you foresee them happening 1353 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:13.256 sequentially or concurrently? Do you 1354 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:14.936 have any views or is there any intention 1355 01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.095 in your wording for them to be se 1356 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:19.656 sequential concurrent or you're 1357 01:00:19.680 --> 01:00:22.680 relatively okay with how they happen? 1358 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:25.815 Councelor Pauling. Yep. Um I suspect 1359 01:00:25.839 --> 01:00:28.376 it's probably beyond my power to dictate 1360 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.400 in that regard. um from essentially in 1361 01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.775 responding provided counselors get their 1362 01:00:34.799 --> 01:00:36.616 opportunity to provide feedback in some 1363 01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:38.456 way, shape or form and community gets 1364 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.055 their opportunity to provide feedback in 1365 01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:42.216 some way, shape or form, then certainly 1366 01:00:42.240 --> 01:00:44.616 my needs would be satisfied. Um but I 1367 01:00:44.640 --> 01:00:45.896 don't think I've got the power to direct 1368 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.335 staff into the order in which they 1369 01:00:47.359 --> 01:00:50.216 actually do things 1370 01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:53.240 in Syria. 1371 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.775 Okay. councelor Conroy. 1372 01:00:56.799 --> 01:00:59.575 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um I think I speak 1373 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.055 in No, I do speak in favor of this 1374 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.696 amendment. Um I think councilors have 1375 01:01:04.720 --> 01:01:06.936 made many points that we have had a 1376 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.960 workshop on this item and a number of um 1377 01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:12.856 provisions have been either modernized 1378 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.880 or clarified or other policies have been 1379 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:18.696 taken taken over or we've decided to 1380 01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:21.720 reduce the overlap where we refer to 1381 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.376 multiple parts of the policy in 1382 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:26.295 different documents. I think that's good 1383 01:01:26.319 --> 01:01:29.095 for clarity and I like simpler documents 1384 01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:30.856 and clearer documents. I think that's 1385 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.880 all great. But when it comes to um 1386 01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:36.856 informing community organizations after 1387 01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:39.880 we make a decision um and only community 1388 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.559 organizations only time that they have 1389 01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:46.535 found out about these proposed changes 1390 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:48.136 in the seven days of this business 1391 01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:51.160 paper. I do actually think I support the 1392 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.496 exhibition because I think that's a a 1393 01:01:53.520 --> 01:01:55.496 place where a number of um invested 1394 01:01:55.520 --> 01:01:57.256 community organizations will be looking 1395 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.280 at our shape like Mac um page and 1396 01:02:01.839 --> 01:02:04.616 actually um be more prepared to give 1397 01:02:04.640 --> 01:02:07.640 feedback um on this. It is public money 1398 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.575 that we are spending for the good of the 1399 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.976 community. I think it's fair that 1400 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.976 councilors and the community get to have 1401 01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.216 a say on how we spend it. I take 1402 01:02:16.240 --> 01:02:18.295 councelor Warner's comments to note 1403 01:02:18.319 --> 01:02:20.456 that there are other mechanisms for some 1404 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.480 of that feedback but those are limited 1405 01:02:23.520 --> 01:02:26.520 in the the different committees and not 1406 01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:29.416 to the policy as a whole which all 1407 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:30.936 counselors get to have a say on and 1408 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.016 which I think the community should be 1409 01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:35.575 able to um 1410 01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.976 have a say when it changes the 1411 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.775 relationships with this council to a 1412 01:02:40.799 --> 01:02:43.256 number of community organizations 1413 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.136 including um organizations s who have 1414 01:02:46.160 --> 01:02:49.160 leaks equity arrangements. and I 1415 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:52.856 agree with the comments about merit of 1416 01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.880 the events. Um that the event should be 1417 01:02:56.240 --> 01:02:59.240 looked at in and of what the event is 1418 01:02:59.680 --> 01:03:01.656 and the good for the community and the 1419 01:03:01.680 --> 01:03:04.535 benefits for the community rather than 1420 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:07.256 who is the proponent or organizer or the 1421 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.280 location of the event. And I think um I 1422 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:13.575 think we can just do a little bit better 1423 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.055 in the arrangements particularly with 1424 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:19.079 our lease equity 1425 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.039 partners. Um 1426 01:03:24.160 --> 01:03:25.656 otherwise I think most of the 1427 01:03:25.680 --> 01:03:28.535 modernization in the policy is very good 1428 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.015 but um I think when it comes to how we 1429 01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.039 spend public's money I think we 1430 01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:37.559 need to have every reassurance that the 1431 01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:40.055 policy is rigorous and thorough and I 1432 01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:42.055 think we can make a few minor 1433 01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:44.216 improvements and have a really really 1434 01:03:44.240 --> 01:03:47.240 strong policy um that benefits our city. 1435 01:03:48.319 --> 01:03:50.376 Thank you councelor Conroy. , 1436 01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.400 councelor Adamweight. 1437 01:03:53.839 --> 01:03:56.055 , yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I 1438 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:57.896 have a question for staff. It's sort of 1439 01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:00.920 a threeprong question actually. Um, in 1440 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.015 terms of 1441 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:05.736 having to send this out for public 1442 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.456 exhibition. Do staff see that there may 1443 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.480 be any structural logistic problems with 1444 01:04:11.680 --> 01:04:14.136 doing this time frame problems of 1445 01:04:14.160 --> 01:04:16.775 getting to organizations? And the 1446 01:04:16.799 --> 01:04:19.799 third part is there any perception that 1447 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.936 this is going to set a precedent for 1448 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.960 other policies that may once have not 1449 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.000 been sent out to poly exhibition. 1450 01:04:33.359 --> 01:04:36.359 I might so we've got 5 minutes to go. 1451 01:04:36.720 --> 01:04:38.616 We'll get the answer the questions and 1452 01:04:38.640 --> 01:04:41.640 then we might extend discussion. 1453 01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:45.656 I'll go to Miss Plumber. I'm being 1454 01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:47.416 advised for the first part of the 1455 01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:49.335 question. Mr. 1456 01:04:49.359 --> 01:04:52.216 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, um, in terms 1457 01:04:52.240 --> 01:04:54.136 of structural 1458 01:04:54.160 --> 01:04:57.160 um barriers, I we will need to yeah 1459 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.216 shape the the page and what questions 1460 01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:02.136 we're going to ask, but um so that'll 1461 01:05:02.160 --> 01:05:03.815 just take a little bit of time, but we 1462 01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:06.839 yeah have the have the um tools to be 1463 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:08.936 able to do that. I can't I can't see 1464 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:11.960 that there will be um 1465 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:15.079 any um significant issues or there's 1466 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:17.256 nothing prohibiting us. 1467 01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:17.656 Yeah. 1468 01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:19.976 Yeah. 1469 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.696 Thank you Miss Palmer and I'll refer to 1470 01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:25.095 the CEO Mr. Farrell for the second part 1471 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:26.216 of the question. 1472 01:05:26.240 --> 01:05:29.240 Um M respect to um our president um 1473 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.440 council has a policy on making policy 1474 01:05:32.799 --> 01:05:35.799 very handy. Um and on this occasion 1475 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:38.856 staff was attempting to follow that 1476 01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.880 policy. It's within the council's 1477 01:05:42.319 --> 01:05:44.775 discretion to divert from policy. 1478 01:05:44.799 --> 01:05:47.799 That's absolutely um at your discretion 1479 01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.480 in almost everything you do with um so I 1480 01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:53.896 would say it it wouldn't and doesn't 1481 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.535 need to set a precedent. Um if the 1482 01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.376 council wants to look at that policy 1483 01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.400 again um that could also be um be 1484 01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.400 possible and if you wanted to 1485 01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.136 you know follow the sense of this 1486 01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:10.055 discussion which is if you wanted more 1487 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.456 engagement on policies that aren't 1488 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.480 always um that way 1489 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.456 that would be tailored within or 1490 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:20.535 discussion. 1491 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:22.376 Thank you Mr. Mayor. I'll move the five 1492 01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:23.496 minute extension. 1493 01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:26.055 Thank you. , councils, I'll look for a 1494 01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.936 5 minute , sorry, we might go a bit 1495 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.856 longer cuz I've still got two. We might 1496 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.256 make it 10 minutes. 10 minutes. 1497 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:36.280 , all those in favor of a 10minut 1498 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:37.976 extension, please say I. 1499 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:38.616 I. 1500 01:06:38.640 --> 01:06:40.376 Those against, I declare it carried. 1501 01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.400 Thank you. , councelor Adam. 1502 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.176 Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Given that 1503 01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:46.936 that staff have indicated that there 1504 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:48.936 really isn't any impediment for us to go 1505 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.256 down this path, I was a little uncertain 1506 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.280 about um doing this particular 1507 01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:57.496 process even though I'd said it was my 1508 01:06:57.520 --> 01:06:59.896 initial response in the first place. Um 1509 01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:01.575 I think that the length of the 1510 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.599 discussion and the variety of questions 1511 01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.015 that people have asked suggests that we 1512 01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.575 really do need to have more input to 1513 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.055 make a decision on this. So um I will be 1514 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.535 supporting the amendment. Thank you, 1515 01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.559 Councelor Adams. Councelor Schulz. 1516 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:19.256 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. In the first 1517 01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.176 instance, I've got some questions for 1518 01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:24.200 staff. Um, the first one is with regards 1519 01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:27.256 to this policy. Is it for more than just 1520 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:29.815 funding of events? 1521 01:07:29.839 --> 01:07:32.775 , Miss Palmer. 1522 01:07:32.799 --> 01:07:35.799 Yes. Through you, Mr. Mayor. So the 1523 01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.775 funding from council policy includes a 1524 01:07:38.799 --> 01:07:41.799 range of um of mechanisms that we 1525 01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:44.616 provide funding to community 1526 01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:46.936 organizations and applicants and 1527 01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:48.456 includes the events and festivals 1528 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:50.216 funding includes the community 1529 01:07:50.240 --> 01:07:52.456 environment grants, the native week 1530 01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.256 events grants, youth week events grants, 1531 01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:56.856 the land mitigation grants, 1532 01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.856 environmental research grants, our 1533 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.095 donations program, the mind's grounding 1534 01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:03.736 fund and the local heritage places fund 1535 01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.575 and a new initiative which will be the 1536 01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:08.599 smart seeds event um smart seeds program 1537 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.256 as well. 1538 01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:12.456 Councelor Shultz 1539 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.456 another question for you Mr. Mayor um 1540 01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.255 the yes program that we have just 1541 01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:20.279 endorsed would it also come under this 1542 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:22.295 funding policy 1543 01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:23.175 Miss Palmer 1544 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:25.175 through Mr. may know that we we have 1545 01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:28.199 adopted a separate standalone 1546 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:31.319 um policy for that program um with its 1547 01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.295 own specific funding source. 1548 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:36.456 Okay, Council Sh. 1549 01:08:36.480 --> 01:08:39.255 Thank you, Mr. May. Um next question is 1550 01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:42.279 with regards to um some deletions from 1551 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.279 version two on page 49 of our papers. in 1552 01:08:49.040 --> 01:08:52.040 the purpose section, the paragraph that 1553 01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:55.480 states what the funding covers is 1554 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.896 removed in the revised 1555 01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.920 version. So that's um the paragraph 1556 01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:05.080 starting this policy applies to council 1557 01:09:05.440 --> 01:09:08.440 D. Why was that removed 1558 01:09:10.799 --> 01:09:13.799 from the revised bummer? 1559 01:09:21.120 --> 01:09:22.936 sorry through this round. So I'm just 1560 01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:24.775 so that the first sentence in the 1561 01:09:24.799 --> 01:09:26.056 purpose in 1562 01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:28.295 the the paragraph this policy applies to 1563 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:29.896 all council funding rounds including 1564 01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:32.215 grants, donations, financial subsidies 1565 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.936 and council muny funding provided for 1566 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.896 community projects. This doesn't apply. 1567 01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.536 Why was that paragraph removed giving 1568 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.376 clarity to people around what this 1569 01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:45.400 policy applies for? 1570 01:09:45.440 --> 01:09:48.440 so they know what the new policy works. 1571 01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.815 yes, sorry. So through you, Mr. 1572 01:09:53.839 --> 01:09:56.839 Mayor. So, um the statement that it 1573 01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:59.336 applies to all 1574 01:09:59.360 --> 01:10:01.896 um all applications for funding has been 1575 01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:03.496 taken out because that's not the case 1576 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.976 because as we've talked about the YES 1577 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.376 program and 1578 01:10:08.400 --> 01:10:11.400 and then if you read further on down 1579 01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:14.776 we've um we've got under the policy 1580 01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:16.296 statement grant funding rounds, 1581 01:10:16.320 --> 01:10:19.096 donations, financial subsidies and 1582 01:10:19.120 --> 01:10:22.120 council emergency funding. and the items 1583 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:25.960 that um fit under those areas. 1584 01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:26.936 Okay. 1585 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:28.456 Councelor Schulz. 1586 01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:31.480 And last question is with regards to the 1587 01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:35.560 exclusions that are in the second 1588 01:10:36.480 --> 01:10:39.480 version on I think it's page 50. Why 1589 01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:43.175 were the exclusions what the policy 1590 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:46.199 doesn't apply to not included in the 1591 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.760 revised and new addition? M plumber 1592 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:53.496 through you Mr. Mayor. So they've been 1593 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:56.520 taken out of the policy and they are 1594 01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.560 specific to the the areas. So the 1595 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.135 funding 1596 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:05.159 um components. So each each um each 1597 01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:10.199 program has its own criteria that apply 1598 01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.416 to it. So rather than having generic 1599 01:11:13.440 --> 01:11:16.440 exclusions across all of them, the um 1600 01:11:17.120 --> 01:11:20.120 the various components will have the 1601 01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.215 criteria specific for those. 1602 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:24.135 So it'll be specified in Thank you. 1603 01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.376 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um thank you to 1604 01:11:26.400 --> 01:11:27.976 staff for those answers. They were just 1605 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.256 some of the question some of the 1606 01:11:29.280 --> 01:11:31.896 questions that I've had with regards to 1607 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:33.736 this policy and reviewing the two 1608 01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:35.896 versions. Um, I'm in support of 1609 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.920 Councelor Pauling's motion to um, defer 1610 01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:41.336 and to send it out for comment. We're 1611 01:11:41.360 --> 01:11:43.096 talking about public money here. We're 1612 01:11:43.120 --> 01:11:45.576 talking about $600,000 1613 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.376 of public money annually, which is $2.4 1614 01:11:48.400 --> 01:11:50.776 million over our 4-year term. That's a 1615 01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:52.695 significant amount. I do think the 1616 01:11:52.719 --> 01:11:55.719 public is um entitled to um, a voice 1617 01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.760 with regards to um, this policy that's 1618 01:12:01.120 --> 01:12:03.496 going to guide how we apply that. even 1619 01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.376 though it does then distribute down into 1620 01:12:06.400 --> 01:12:08.536 um grant committees and I I sit on a 1621 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.376 grant committee and so I know the 1622 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:11.976 complexity of grant committees and 1623 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.000 having to process um applications and 1624 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.600 and the specific grant um parameters but 1625 01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:22.456 in this case this is the policy that's 1626 01:12:22.480 --> 01:12:24.296 overarching all of them and I think 1627 01:12:24.320 --> 01:12:26.456 we've got to get the parameters right on 1628 01:12:26.480 --> 01:12:28.936 this one so that we can have effective 1629 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:31.496 and good funding programs which do help 1630 01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.520 to input into our community and to build 1631 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:38.536 um not just the events but the community 1632 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:41.336 a spree the core across our city across 1633 01:12:41.360 --> 01:12:44.360 all of our wards. Um and so I'm I'm in 1634 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:47.256 support of u the motion that's the 1635 01:12:47.280 --> 01:12:49.016 amended motion that's before us at the 1636 01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:50.616 moment. 1637 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.175 Thank you councelor Shultz. Deputy 1638 01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:55.496 May Grigg. 1639 01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:57.896 thank you Mr. Mayor. given that 1640 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.920 this amendment is is to put the 1641 01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:04.296 decision out to the public for public 1642 01:13:04.320 --> 01:13:05.816 exhibition, 1643 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.376 some of the the investigations 1644 01:13:08.400 --> 01:13:10.135 we're doing at this time could be 1645 01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:12.456 superfluous. I'm just wondering if the 1646 01:13:12.480 --> 01:13:15.256 the motion can be put. 1647 01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:18.280 We're in standing committee, so um we 1648 01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.976 can go all night. there's a short 1649 01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:22.776 answer. 1650 01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:24.936 Can I go to sleep then? 1651 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:27.256 So yeah, I'll just have to rule that one 1652 01:13:27.280 --> 01:13:30.280 out. But any other feedback? 1653 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.616 You're all good. You are the last 1654 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.640 speaker, so 1655 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.576 I'm sure somebody else wants to speak. 1656 01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:40.600 No worries. I too I'll be supporting 1657 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:44.760 the amendment. Um and I'm doing that 1658 01:13:45.040 --> 01:13:48.040 based on a number of issues. 1659 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:51.560 in reference to the original report, 1660 01:13:52.400 --> 01:13:55.016 it refers to a review period going 1661 01:13:55.040 --> 01:13:57.896 from 2 years to 4 years. so I think 1662 01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.920 we need to get this right. so yeah, 1663 01:14:01.040 --> 01:14:03.496 it's really important. Um on that note, 1664 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:06.135 that closes debate on the amendment. 1665 01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:07.496 There's no one else looking for the 1666 01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:10.456 call. 1667 01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:13.256 and I will put the amendment. the 1668 01:14:13.280 --> 01:14:16.215 amendment from councelor Pauling 1669 01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.536 seconded by councelor Swinsburg and 1670 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.695 we'll do that by a show of hands. I'm 1671 01:14:20.719 --> 01:14:22.616 not proposing to read it out. It's been 1672 01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:25.256 up there for half an hour or so. So it 1673 01:14:25.280 --> 01:14:28.280 includes A, B, C, and D. all those in 1674 01:14:28.480 --> 01:14:30.456 favor of the amendment, please raise 1675 01:14:30.480 --> 01:14:33.480 your hand. Those in favor, councelor 1676 01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:35.496 Adams Weight, Deputy Mayor Grig, 1677 01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:37.816 Councelor Conroy, Council Pauling, 1678 01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:39.655 Councelor Swinsburg, Council Schulz, 1679 01:14:39.679 --> 01:14:42.536 Councelor Hannah, Mayor Adam Schulz, 1680 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.175 those against, , Council Bishop, 1681 01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:48.199 Council Warner, Councelor Buckley. I 1682 01:14:48.480 --> 01:14:51.480 declare it carried. The amendment now 1683 01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:54.456 becomes the motion. 1684 01:14:54.480 --> 01:14:57.480 And I'll go back to the original mover, 1685 01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:00.296 which was councelor Adams. if you wanted 1686 01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:01.976 to speak and have a 1687 01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.215 Yes. Thank you, Mr. May. Just to 1688 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.175 round off the conversation, I think that 1689 01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:09.655 what we've shown tonight is the perfect 1690 01:15:09.679 --> 01:15:12.679 example of a diverse point of view, 1691 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.199 coming together, taking an idea, 1692 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:19.016 developing that idea, compromising, and 1693 01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:21.736 producing something that wasn't what we 1694 01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:23.976 started with, but is perhaps what most 1695 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:25.816 of us will be comfortable with. So, I'd 1696 01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:27.336 like to congratulate all of the 1697 01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:29.496 counselors. Thank you. Thank you, 1698 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.976 councelor Adamweight. And that closes 1699 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.936 debate. just noting that the 1700 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.960 amendment is now the motion which was 1701 01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:40.856 successful from councelor Pauling and 1702 01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:43.880 councelor Swinsburg. that includes 1703 01:15:44.320 --> 01:15:47.320 A, B, C, and D. again, I will put the 1704 01:15:49.280 --> 01:15:52.215 motion. and I'll do that by a show of 1705 01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:55.239 hands. All those in favor of the motion, 1706 01:15:55.920 --> 01:15:58.376 please raise your hand. Those in favor, 1707 01:15:58.400 --> 01:16:00.776 councelor Adams, Deputy Mayor Grig, 1708 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.256 Councelor Conroy, Council Pauling, 1709 01:16:03.280 --> 01:16:05.336 Council Swinsburg, Council Shultz, 1710 01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:07.976 Councelor Hannah, Mayor Adam Shultz. 1711 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.976 Those against, Councelor Bishop, 1712 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.376 Councelor Warner, and Councelor Buckley, 1713 01:16:12.400 --> 01:16:14.456 I declare it carried. Thank you, 1714 01:16:14.480 --> 01:16:17.480 councilors. 1715 01:16:22.260 --> 01:16:24.856 [Applause] 1716 01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:27.880 we got so that closes service 1717 01:16:28.080 --> 01:16:30.456 delivery and I believe we now have 1718 01:16:30.480 --> 01:16:33.480 general business committee. so I will 1719 01:16:34.320 --> 01:16:36.936 open general business standing committee 1720 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.816 and again we will call for apologies. We 1721 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:42.456 might wait for councelor Antcliff to 1722 01:16:42.480 --> 01:16:44.936 rejoin us if he's still there 1723 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:47.960 as well. 1724 01:16:49.440 --> 01:16:51.256 Yeah. 1725 01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:54.280 , councelor Anklid has rejoined us. 1726 01:16:58.080 --> 01:17:00.856 Yep. Quick. , councilors. So, we'll 1727 01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:02.376 open up general business standing 1728 01:17:02.400 --> 01:17:03.736 committee and we will call for 1729 01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:05.736 apologies. I note that we have councelor 1730 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:08.376 Radcliffe as an apology. , I'll look 1731 01:17:08.400 --> 01:17:10.536 for a mover and a second. Councelor 1732 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:13.560 Conroy moved that way. , Deputy Mayor 1733 01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:16.776 , Grigg seconding that. All those in 1734 01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.800 favor, please say I. Those against I 1735 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:22.776 declare it carried. declarations of 1736 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:24.536 interest for general business is 1737 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.560 extremely hard. Um once there is any 1738 01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:30.600 general business, please flag it. If 1739 01:17:31.040 --> 01:17:33.976 you do note that you have a declaration 1740 01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:37.000 of interest. councilors, do I have 1741 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:40.536 any general business? I'll go around the 1742 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:43.336 room as I always do and start with 1743 01:17:43.360 --> 01:17:46.360 councelor Adam. Any general business? 1744 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:50.215 None from council Adams. Councelor 1745 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:51.816 Antcliff, any general business? 1746 01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:53.416 No general business, Mr. Mayor. 1747 01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:55.655 Thank you. , Deputy Mayor, 1748 01:17:55.679 --> 01:17:57.896 no general business. Councelor Conroy, 1749 01:17:57.920 --> 01:17:59.016 no. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1750 01:17:59.040 --> 01:18:01.175 No general business. Councelor Bishop, 1751 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:02.936 none from May. Um, 1752 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:05.256 thank you. No, no general business from 1753 01:18:05.280 --> 01:18:07.096 councelor Bishop. Councelor Warner, any 1754 01:18:07.120 --> 01:18:07.736 general business? 1755 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:08.215 I do. 1756 01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:08.776 Yep. 1757 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.096 Sorry to break the trend. Um, I just 1758 01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:13.016 wanted to note that it's anti-poverty 1759 01:18:13.040 --> 01:18:15.736 week this week. um to formally recognize 1760 01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:18.376 that that poverty is a lived reality for 1761 01:18:18.400 --> 01:18:20.456 many of us for many people in Lake 1762 01:18:20.480 --> 01:18:23.096 McCory and the rising cost of living and 1763 01:18:23.120 --> 01:18:26.056 the housing stress um working situations 1764 01:18:26.080 --> 01:18:28.215 limited access to essential services 1765 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:30.135 continue to impact our individuals and 1766 01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:33.016 families in the community um and 1767 01:18:33.040 --> 01:18:34.695 according to Australian Council of 1768 01:18:34.719 --> 01:18:37.175 Social Services and I'll email this 1769 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.199 through data um there's more than 3.32 1770 01:18:40.719 --> 01:18:42.936 million people over 1 in eight 1771 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:44.856 Australians who live in poverty 1772 01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:47.416 including one in six children. Um and 1773 01:18:47.440 --> 01:18:49.976 these figures nationally reflect in our 1774 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:53.000 local area. So poverty exists and it 1775 01:18:53.440 --> 01:18:56.296 hurts um hurts us all. Actually it 1776 01:18:56.320 --> 01:18:58.376 impacts us all. Um but we can do 1777 01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:01.400 something about it. there is hope and 1778 01:19:01.679 --> 01:19:03.736 not despair. And so shout out to our 1779 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.296 providers in the community who offer 1780 01:19:06.320 --> 01:19:08.616 essential services and support our 1781 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:10.376 residents experiencing poverty 1782 01:19:10.400 --> 01:19:11.976 particularly during anti-poverty week 1783 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.616 but every day of the week. Um I've been 1784 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:16.135 talking to some of these services in the 1785 01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.695 west ward and they report a tripling in 1786 01:19:18.719 --> 01:19:21.175 increase in support for food and 1787 01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:24.199 emergency support across the city. Um 1788 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.239 the Salvos community at hope of of hope 1789 01:19:27.360 --> 01:19:30.360 at Toronto for example have gone from 1790 01:19:30.400 --> 01:19:32.456 regularly supporting 60 residents a 1791 01:19:32.480 --> 01:19:35.480 month to over 150 in the past 2 years. 1792 01:19:36.719 --> 01:19:38.856 They provide support to the community 1793 01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:41.336 with um a range of different services 1794 01:19:41.360 --> 01:19:43.416 and they're just one example. I've 1795 01:19:43.440 --> 01:19:45.416 spoken to a number of other providers 1796 01:19:45.440 --> 01:19:48.440 that reflect these um samples of 1797 01:19:48.719 --> 01:19:51.576 tripling um providing not only just to 1798 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:53.816 those in low income traditionally but 1799 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:56.215 some in the middle income bracket as 1800 01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:59.016 well. So anti-poverty week provides us 1801 01:19:59.040 --> 01:20:00.856 an opportunity to unite our community 1802 01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:02.616 under a shared commitment. And I think 1803 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:04.296 we have that here in Lake McCory. And 1804 01:20:04.320 --> 01:20:06.456 it's a chance to live with dignity, 1805 01:20:06.480 --> 01:20:07.816 opportunity, and hope. And I look 1806 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:10.840 forward to um our continued um work that 1807 01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:14.056 we're doing in the housing area to 1808 01:20:14.080 --> 01:20:16.536 address that one particular need. But um 1809 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:18.296 I do want to bring to everyone's 1810 01:20:18.320 --> 01:20:21.256 attention um the importance of noting 1811 01:20:21.280 --> 01:20:23.256 what exists in our community. 1812 01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:26.056 Thank you, Council Warner. , Councelor 1813 01:20:26.080 --> 01:20:26.856 Pauling, 1814 01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:28.616 no general business, Mr. Mayor. 1815 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:30.215 Thank you. Council Swinsburg, 1816 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:32.296 no general business. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. 1817 01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:34.616 Thank you, Council Buckley. 1818 01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.135 No general business. Thank you, Mr. 1819 01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:36.536 Mayor. 1820 01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.560 Thank you. , councelor Shultz. Yes, 1821 01:20:39.679 --> 01:20:42.376 Mr. Mayor. I do have one. Um, that 1822 01:20:42.400 --> 01:20:45.400 council notes that the HSC exams start 1823 01:20:45.440 --> 01:20:46.536 this week 1824 01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:48.456 and that council wishes all students 1825 01:20:48.480 --> 01:20:51.336 across Lake McQuary all the best for the 1826 01:20:51.360 --> 01:20:54.360 ensuing exam period. Thank you. and I 1827 01:20:56.719 --> 01:20:58.456 endorse your comments earlier this 1828 01:20:58.480 --> 01:21:01.175 evening about the Jets winning the 1829 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:03.416 the Australia Cup and the start of the 1830 01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:04.536 season this weekend. 1831 01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:06.695 Excellent. Thank you, Councelor Schulz. 1832 01:21:06.719 --> 01:21:09.336 Councelor Hannah. 1833 01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:11.416 Thank you. Mr. Farrell, any general 1834 01:21:11.440 --> 01:21:11.976 business? 1835 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:13.416 No general business, M. 1836 01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:15.496 Thank you, councilors, that now 1837 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:17.655 concludes our committee meetings for 1838 01:21:17.679 --> 01:21:20.215 this evening. Thank you, councilors and 1839 01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:21.976 members of the gallery for your 1840 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.536 attendance. , I'll now close the 1841 01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:26.776 standing committee. 1842 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:28.616 And just a reminder that we'll be back 1843 01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:30.856 here to do it all again in a fortnight's 1844 01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:33.880 time. , Monday the 27th of October 1845 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:37.239 from 6:30 p.m. Thank you.